Yeah TBH I actually agree with a lot of your points but I still feel like you’re over simplifying this. The pre 1980s mental health institution had a whole other set of problems as well.

Sounds like you’re insinuating that my viewpoint is homeless people are not citizens which is just not what I said.

Honestly you lost me at the first sentence. It’s very obviously a complex problem and to suggest it’s simple is just demoralizing to the dedicated civil servants that work so hard to fix it.

And homelessness has always been a problem, I feel like generally people fall into this rosy recollection to a time where it was far harder to document it

Welcome to how the world works. Citizens like clean places to live

I don’t think the first part is true but unfortunately I agree on the second part. The west Coast in general has been struggling with this for a while and the compassionate approach hasn’t shown the promised results. Maybe it technically is, but visible homelessness is what gets people elected.

I mean, they’ve been trying other solutions and they obviously haven’t been working. Citizens don’t like living near these and this issue is rallying people to the right. I get that banning and sweeping sucks and is just moving people around, but if that ends up moving people from a highly visible area to a less visible area then it can go a long way for local businesses and tourism.