• rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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    Gun violence in Canada is near exclusively committed with illegal firearms brought up from the states. The limits on long guns for people with PALs does nothing to curb the violence.

    Also, lots of specific model gun prohibitions are literally based on how scary a gun looks and not anything to do with things like barrel length or caliber. The FN FAL was recently prohibited because you can fix a bayonet, like all those pesky criminals are doing these days…

    • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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      Really pushing the disinformation and gaslighting here. Pearl clutching about your weapons designed to kill others under the guise of “hobbies”

      Illegal guns are sold from legal owners to criminals. So no they’re not “well intentioned individuals”

      There was also an incident where a father used his legal gun to kill his wife, father in law then himself. Wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t allowed access to guns in the first place.

      “78.3% of gun-related domestic homicides in Canada were committed with firearms in the legal possession of licensed owners.”

      https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Guns-in-family-violence%3A-legal-weapons-pose-the-Alpers/4d9d64178589bce820cf197674f694324921e7d7

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        Your source was published in 1995. A lot of regulation has changed over the last 30 years. I wonder what the numbers look like now.

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        Am I misunderstanding, or is the article you linked from 1995? I have a feeling a lot has changed with fireams related homicides since then. Especially with the advent of firearms being built out of a bunch of disparate parts.

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          Few recent Canadian mass shooters had criminal records of any kind, for example, and most obtained their weapons legally (although the Portapique killer did not).

          the remaining 20 to 25 per cent of firearm deaths that are not suicide, the data is unclear but appears to follow the Canadian homicide pattern of 31 per cent resulting from family violence. The presence of a gun in a household struggling with heavy drinking, domestic violence and other stresses is inherently intimidating and deadly.

          The family violence crisis is not just about deaths; it’s also about the health of the home environment. Thousands of Canadian women and children are forced to seek shelter from violence and abuse every day, while many more live in fear.

          The northern and rural regions of all provinces experience significantly higher homicide rates than southern and metropolitan regions.

          This tracks with data from the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians showing significantly higher gun ownership in northern, rural and Indigenous communities.

          So although the overall picture is complex, the dominant themes are remarkably clear. Given the driving patterns of self-harm and gun violence, a phased-in reduction of easy access to weapons is likely to yield significant results over time. This isn’t controversial, as it’s worked for many other countries for decades.

          https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/06/02/opinion/surprising-truth-about-gun-deaths-canada

          • AlmightyTritan@beehaw.org
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            Thank you for providing this information. Your previous link really didn’t paint the image I think you wanted to.

            I think a lot of the disconnect woth people is that a lot of Canadians are faced with what they perceive as a lot more grave issues endangering peoples lives. And it differs between provinces and even as your links state municipal vs rural areas.

            I think because we don’t have the constant threat of mass shootings the likes of the USA, those in areas less impacted by fire arm deaths are more apathetic. Or maybe just view it as we’ve done enough.

            Obviously governments should have the capacity to deal with multiple issues at once, but I think people really get caught up in the “why are you worrying about this, when X thing is way more dangerous.”. It might come off as whataboutism, and often times it can be, but I think k its just as easy to say that person hasn’t been as broadly effected by guns and someone else.