looks at Canada, then the US
Guess the apple really doesn’t fall far from the tree
Just wait 200 years and the West will also admit to all the contemporary genocides. And will make some very touching museum to them, while committing new ones and silencing anyone opposed to it.
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The sky is blue, moon is a rock in space, earth is a stupid name for a planet. Tell me new things
Water is wet
Water isnt wet. It makes things wet. The effect of an object a to another object b is never the state of the object a. A pen writes on paper, the paper then is writen but the pen isnt writen
(Had to. Sorry. SpaceFrogs reference)
It’s interesting how whenever interesting topics like these appear on reddit, it devolves into paragraph long discussions. When these topics appear on lemmy, people just downvote you, call you a nerd and say they don’t give a shit. Just something I’ve noticed.
People here have a life outside this website
I’m not seeing how that prevents you from using your phone. I’m literally at work right now.
I don’t care. Water is wet.
Pen was just written.
Gg.
It’s important because settlers have been denying the genocide from the beginning and still do to this day.
Racist be racist
Look, I’m on the Brit’s side on this one. Just because the aborigines have the oldest ever civilisation and just because they lived here for 100K years before the brits turned up, doesn’t mean shit.
/s obviously.
This is news?
for real. i thought this was common knowledge how ravenous the British were throughout history
And the elites over there still think Genocide is absolutely fine as long as its Whites doing it to non-Whites, hence their support for Israel and its Genocide.
Britain is maybe the best example there is of an European country which culturally didn’t evolve much from 19th century thinking, at various levels (their political system, too, is an earlier, partial form of Democracy easily subverted).
Plenty of people over there do have a XXI century mindset, but those aren’t the ones with actual Power.
Elita support genocide as long as they get paid.
Which kind of takes out the racism, but I’m not sure it makes it better. See also them turning their head to Rwanda, the Arabs slavery and so on, as long as they invest in western companies.
Palestinian fault’s was apparently to not invest in some shitty football team
I think the profound contrast between the reaction from the British “Authorities” to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and to the Israeli Genocide in Gaza, disproves the idea that it’s all about money, especially given that there was a lot more money being made from Russia than can be made from Israel.
I mean, a musician is right now being investigated by the British Police for shouting his desire for death to the invader, genocidal army that’s purposefully mass murdering children - that of Israel - whilst nobody in Britain was ever investigated by police for wanting the death of members of the invading Russian army in Ukraine, even though the latter is barelly targetting civilians and never explicitly children (unlike the former).
Racism, extreme and profound Racism even, is the most reasonable explanation for such a massive disconnect in their reaction to those two different aggressors in proportion to the crimes they’re committing, more so given that a money reason would yield an unbalanced reaction in the very opposite direction.
I think Russia tends to be a different story because it causes uncertainty in their backyard. It is a large scale war, that threatens to spill into Europe “proper”, and that’s bad for trading and the economy in the EU.
I agree that, for most people, there is still a degree of racism, but I still think that Billionaires look primarily at your wallet (ex: Sunak is in all “proper” circles in the UK, Indian or not) and you race secondly.
IMHO l, racism is a tool to keep the poor from talking about classism. So after years of propaganda about it, it’s a problem that mostly affect the poor, while they get fucked in their wallet
Oh, from my own experience with upper class Englishmen (granted, only a handful) when living in Britain, Sunak isn’t really a “proper” upper class person in their eyes, especially for those who are Old Wealth as he’s both not White and his wealth doesn’t go back enough generations - it’s pretty hard to get accepted into the English upper class circles even if you did attend one of the posher Public Schools and even when inside there are different “classes” of people.
Very wealthy people really are a petty as the rest, and though most are pragmatic in their choice of actions when their economic interests are at stake, they’ll definitelly follow their own petty impulses when such interest are not really at stake.
I mean, the various very public actions from Elon Musk, from his “pedophile” accusation to the rescuer that refused his wild-ass submarine scheme to rescue the boys in Thailand to his Nazi Salute, show him as a prime example of how the very wealthy can act driven by internal impulses even in ways that go against their best interests.
You see, almost all of the very Wealthy are were they are due to “popping out of the right vagina”, not due to superior behaviour, and this is pretty much “100% of them” when it comes to Old Wealth, so don’t presume they’ll act driven by rationality alone - if the stakes for their own interests aren’t high enough they’ll follow things like their supremacist beliefs just like the “riff-raff”, and really the main difference from the English wealthy when they do this to for example the American wealthy, is that they’ll coach the whole thing in some posh “rationale” rather than be open about their Racial Preferences or the appeal of Supremacism for them (it makes sense that somebody who was born to Wealth will be attracted to the idea that some people are born inherently superior to others and hence are more successful, as that implies that their inherent superiority is the reason for their wealth)
And most of us Aussies voted no to recognise the indigenous voice in our constitution. It just never ends.
Yeah bunch of cunts, I’m a Ngombur man and it was incredibly disheartening to talk to anyone out and about and hear how they didn’t want to vote yes for what really boiled down to racist fear.
I voted yes, and got called racist by some dink simping for Lidia Thorpe in the Green and Pleasant subreddit. The immature trashy twat who campaigned No because she said it was tokenistic.
I don’t know what to think anymore.
They needed an inquiry?
LIES!!
Europeans traveled the globe to spread the love of God and everyone they encountered they treated with the utmost respect because they realized these people, like themselves, are God’s creation, created in His image. That’s the beauty about Christians throughout the ages, you can safely trust upon their moral compass because they adhere to the laws of God and God only. If Europeans weren’t truly guided by God, and ever behaved in bad ways as is suggested here, you would expect to see examples of such unprovoked death and destruction across the globe all throughout the age of exploration and colonialism. But what we see, for the most part, is harmony and bliss, ever lasting peace and prosperity, like a mirror image of the Kingdom of Heaven brought to earth. And people across the globe converted because they were impressed by the moral superiority of the white man, saviors of humanity, chosen by God himself to guide us to His perfect light. And yes, of course, in some instances, when indiginous people would threaten this harmony, the good Christians needed to defend it, as warriors of God, and sometimes harsh measures needed to be taken. But to frame this genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, torture, theft, etc. as immoral is shortsighted. They raped and tortured in self defense, or if not that, in His defence. Sometimes it may not be immediately obvious how these actions by Christians are part of Gods plan, but God and his true believers in His name, work in mysterious ways, and to question these ways, whether guided by hatred or logic, is to disrespect God, because it shows you have no faith. When you act out of faith in God, this requires no logic, no justification. The actions of the Christian man are it’s own justification. Submit and all will be well. But if you resist you deserve everything that’s coming to you, fire and brimstone, whether it’s in Hell or here on earth, you will burn, as the abomination you are.
Say it with me, ‘for the Grace of God, DEATH TO ALL NON-BELIEVERS!’
/s (obviously…)
The Inquiry:
*Opens a 7th grade social studies class textbook.
So now what ? Are the families or descendents of those indigenous australians alive today in australia ? After so many years what kind of compensation will be provided or what kind of justice will be provided ?
And Tasmanians, and Native Americans, and Indians, and Kenyans, and Irish…
Tasmanians
Tasmania is a state of Australia, all Tasmanian are Australian. Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples are the same as mainland Aboriginal peoples.
Torres Strait Islanders are the other indigenous peoples in Australia.
There’s an Australian Canadian co-production that goes into some of the atrocities the British got into:
It’s a great podcast. It would be nice if they made more episodes.
And it’s not like they’re lacking for material hah
Probably other brits…
Various forms of Gaelic are hardly languages anymore
We did all of those that identify as Celt, one way or another.
They needed an inquiry for this? If the British showed up, they tried to genocide, that’s just what they do
It’s always been characterized as a police action against “criminals.”
In the US, we declared war against Native Americans, so it’s more obviously a genocide. Murders of aboriginal Australians have always been constructed as police actions.
If the British showed up, they tried to genocide, that’s just what they do
I mean only if it’s non-white people. They’ve helped white people out sometimes - of course only when it’s aligned with their interests.
Lol have you met Ireland
That’s absolutely not the case, you do a disservice to yourself if you don’t spend some time to learn more about the history of British aggression against other white people groups.
The British literally helped my extremely white people gain independence. They don’t always genocide white people is what I meant. They only sometimes genocide white people. They always genocide non-white people.
Literally the opposite of what your comment says :)
Is it? Comment above mine says that if the Brits showed up, they definitely genocided you. Mine says that it was only guaranteed to be genocide if you’re not white. The “might still be genocided if you’re white” part was left for the reader to infer, that was an error on my part, as it was a bit too subtle for no reason.
Define “white”
Here in Estonia (very white folks, we’re pretty far north), the Brits lent us a few ships the first time we broke free from Russian rule. So what I meant is if you’re white, they’ll occasionally help you (probably to get back at another empire), but if you’re colored, they’ll genocide you and take your land for sure.
Yes, I’m highlighting that the definition of white has changed over time.
What’s happening behind Pikachu?
Probably the British, sneaking up.
Brock is just standing behind him
And here I thought folks just let the Brits displace them because they’re so nice!
Certainly the posh ones will tell you they value your input as you scream from the pain due the knife they plunged into your back.
If this inquiry has no power to actually do anything about this finding, I’m not sure I understand the point.
Anyone who ever read a history book already knows about the multiple genocides. The issue is what happens now?
They’ll formally apologize, as talk is cheap, and then do nothing further.
And no, I’m not at all kidding or exaggerating: this is THE most common strategy in British Political and Social Elite circles for getting rid of such “problems” when denying it doesn’t work.
Deny it, deny it was a problem, deny it was systemic, apologize and claim it was too long ago and it’s pointless to do anything about it now, is a well travelled multi-step strategy in British politics (THE main strategy, even) to avoid actual consequences for their actions or lack of action.
True. This is what I am also thinking ? Everybody knows the colonial powers or imperial powers did lot of atrocities, exploitation. It is there in books.
for the same reason that everyone is entitled to due process even when things are incredibly obvious… it’s important to follow a process, to document formally, etc
I guess the point would be for everyone involved to say “never again” and if someone quotes Hitler they should not win elections.
