Plouffe, who worked as a Harris campaign adviser, has taken aim at Biden obliquely in the past as well.
Feel like this is pretty important context for the statements. Because while I absolutely agree Biden should never have run for a second term, there seems to be a very vocal number of democratic campaign consultants and party officials who really wanted distract you from the fact that they ran a god-awful campaign. I don’t know if this Democratic establishment party could have won with anybody to be honest. Not the way they chose to handle themselves. Frankly I find their behavior to be even worse than Biden’s. The energy and electricity that Harris started her campaign with was transcendent, especially when they added Walz. Then they drove the whole campaign off a cliff. So excuse me if I’m not super sympathetic to the people that decided to run the Hillary Clinton campaign 2.0.
I don’t understand this perspective, no one had any excitement or interest in Biden and Harris had both of those things in spades, not sure what made the campaign “god awful” by engaging the base and drumming up a ton of excitement and money. Anything you can throw out there about not communicating about policy or whatever has to be applied to Trump who also didn’t do those things, especially when you consider dems get raked over the coals for not speaking plainly enough yet she’s supposed to plainly speak about public policy and foreign policy at a very high level? It seems like she was given a literally impossible task if you consider that campaign to be “god awful” of course she failed at an impossible task. Frankly I believe the election had very serious interference and that’s why she lost, and her behavior post election is unforgivable, just disappearing and leaving the American people she claimed she wanted to lead high and dry, she clearly has no desire to be a leader beyond the title and perks or she would be leading them dems now in a resistance against Trump. She’s a failure for sure, her behavior post election proves she was never cut out to be a leader or she would be leading now but running a “god awful campaign” is just dishonest
It was outdated the first time they ran it for Hillary on 2016.
By outdated, I simply mean they marketed Kamala to themselves. Just like the marketed Hillary to themselves.
They took the platform and policy messages of each of those candidates, and made them appear “smart, effective, and knowledgeable.”
Since 2016, there are simply not enough educated Americans in this country who can understand that messaging.
The one thing Kamala and Clinton failed to do?
Dumb their message down. Way way down. To the lowest of the lowest denominator.
Both their campaigns refused to even TRY to do that. So they came off to the majority of Americans as arrogant, and unwilling to explain their positions in simple terms, so everyone picked the conman. (As that’s what poorly educated people do).
The one critical flaw in every Democratic campaign is that they assume the majority of Americans are educated enough to understand their policy plans.
They aren’t.
55% of this country literally can’t understand what Kamala or Clinton are saying.
They don’t know how policies work.
They don’t know how compromise works.
And worst of all, they don’t know how their own government works.
Dems assume the majority of Americans know these things by default. They don’t, so all their campaign messages based on these assumptions get completely lost on anyone but themselves.
Until Democrats understand just how little of this country knows how it functions, they will not be able to communicate their policies effectively. They need to be willing to speak simply, and reduce their policies to 5 word talking points they can blast at every event until it’s burned into the minds of everyone listening.
They see themselves better than that though, so will never act the way they need to if they actually want to gain voters instead of lose them.
Dems simply got so used to being smart, they forgot that’s not always a good thing. Especially in situations where they’re trying to convince a room full of idiots that the room is on fire. Those idiots will die trying to figure out what the smart people mean by “inflammable” as they unknowingly stand in front of and block all the exits.
(inflammable can actually mean “ready to burst into flame” but has a different meaning now because of the effects of stupid people using language over time. I used it to make a point about stupid people driving the future. Dems should take note.)
Bernie did, and he’s still pushing change. Not saying Kamala couldn’t end up in that spot too, but currently she seems to have taken it personal and scurried off into the woods like Hillary did after her awful campaign to lick her wounds. They both seem to have decided that if they couldn’t be queen then it’s not worth really fighting at all.
Hell, Ted Cruz is still “fighting” after losing his presidential running
Someone who actually believes in their own message, and honestly believes that the political agenda they’re working for are important, to the point of putting this things ahead of themselves.
When you lose, you can choose to lie down and give up, or you can pick yourself up and keep fighting. I’m not an ardent critic of Harris, but she clearly chose the former. The same goes for Hillary Clinton. Both these people had/have huge platforms that they could use to front politics and help build up other candidates for future elections, not only presidential, but local, senate and house elections too. They have chosen to disappear from politics instead.
That is arguably disappearing. After gaining such popularity, deciding not to use your influence for anything you were fighting for is probably not the right choice if you actually believed in the change.
I disagree. The millions of dollars of campaign money that amplifies the candidates voice suddenly goes away… that’s what happens. And the media shifts towards the winning candidate. It happens in literally every single election.
Ted Cruz still uses his influence to fight for his side and he lost a presidential race too. And with great “success” for some earthly reason i can’t begin to fathom.
Feel like this is pretty important context for the statements. Because while I absolutely agree Biden should never have run for a second term, there seems to be a very vocal number of democratic campaign consultants and party officials who really wanted distract you from the fact that they ran a god-awful campaign. I don’t know if this Democratic establishment party could have won with anybody to be honest. Not the way they chose to handle themselves. Frankly I find their behavior to be even worse than Biden’s. The energy and electricity that Harris started her campaign with was transcendent, especially when they added Walz. Then they drove the whole campaign off a cliff. So excuse me if I’m not super sympathetic to the people that decided to run the Hillary Clinton campaign 2.0.
I don’t understand this perspective, no one had any excitement or interest in Biden and Harris had both of those things in spades, not sure what made the campaign “god awful” by engaging the base and drumming up a ton of excitement and money. Anything you can throw out there about not communicating about policy or whatever has to be applied to Trump who also didn’t do those things, especially when you consider dems get raked over the coals for not speaking plainly enough yet she’s supposed to plainly speak about public policy and foreign policy at a very high level? It seems like she was given a literally impossible task if you consider that campaign to be “god awful” of course she failed at an impossible task. Frankly I believe the election had very serious interference and that’s why she lost, and her behavior post election is unforgivable, just disappearing and leaving the American people she claimed she wanted to lead high and dry, she clearly has no desire to be a leader beyond the title and perks or she would be leading them dems now in a resistance against Trump. She’s a failure for sure, her behavior post election proves she was never cut out to be a leader or she would be leading now but running a “god awful campaign” is just dishonest
It was a godawful campaign for one single reason:
It was outdated.
Even worse.
It was outdated the first time they ran it for Hillary on 2016.
By outdated, I simply mean they marketed Kamala to themselves. Just like the marketed Hillary to themselves.
They took the platform and policy messages of each of those candidates, and made them appear “smart, effective, and knowledgeable.”
Since 2016, there are simply not enough educated Americans in this country who can understand that messaging.
The one thing Kamala and Clinton failed to do?
Dumb their message down. Way way down. To the lowest of the lowest denominator.
Both their campaigns refused to even TRY to do that. So they came off to the majority of Americans as arrogant, and unwilling to explain their positions in simple terms, so everyone picked the conman. (As that’s what poorly educated people do).
The one critical flaw in every Democratic campaign is that they assume the majority of Americans are educated enough to understand their policy plans.
They aren’t.
55% of this country literally can’t understand what Kamala or Clinton are saying.
They don’t know how policies work. They don’t know how compromise works. And worst of all, they don’t know how their own government works.
Dems assume the majority of Americans know these things by default. They don’t, so all their campaign messages based on these assumptions get completely lost on anyone but themselves.
Until Democrats understand just how little of this country knows how it functions, they will not be able to communicate their policies effectively. They need to be willing to speak simply, and reduce their policies to 5 word talking points they can blast at every event until it’s burned into the minds of everyone listening.
They see themselves better than that though, so will never act the way they need to if they actually want to gain voters instead of lose them.
Dems simply got so used to being smart, they forgot that’s not always a good thing. Especially in situations where they’re trying to convince a room full of idiots that the room is on fire. Those idiots will die trying to figure out what the smart people mean by “inflammable” as they unknowingly stand in front of and block all the exits.
(inflammable can actually mean “ready to burst into flame” but has a different meaning now because of the effects of stupid people using language over time. I used it to make a point about stupid people driving the future. Dems should take note.)
We’re literally talking about a national election where she offered her leadership and America said “No.” lol who sticks around after that?
“Who sticks around after that?”
Bernie did, and he’s still pushing change. Not saying Kamala couldn’t end up in that spot too, but currently she seems to have taken it personal and scurried off into the woods like Hillary did after her awful campaign to lick her wounds. They both seem to have decided that if they couldn’t be queen then it’s not worth really fighting at all.
Hell, Ted Cruz is still “fighting” after losing his presidential running
Someone who actually believes in their own message, and honestly believes that the political agenda they’re working for are important, to the point of putting this things ahead of themselves.
When you lose, you can choose to lie down and give up, or you can pick yourself up and keep fighting. I’m not an ardent critic of Harris, but she clearly chose the former. The same goes for Hillary Clinton. Both these people had/have huge platforms that they could use to front politics and help build up other candidates for future elections, not only presidential, but local, senate and house elections too. They have chosen to disappear from politics instead.
neither of them disappeared they’re just not as loud as they were during the campaign
That is arguably disappearing. After gaining such popularity, deciding not to use your influence for anything you were fighting for is probably not the right choice if you actually believed in the change.
I disagree. The millions of dollars of campaign money that amplifies the candidates voice suddenly goes away… that’s what happens. And the media shifts towards the winning candidate. It happens in literally every single election.
Ted Cruz still uses his influence to fight for his side and he lost a presidential race too. And with great “success” for some earthly reason i can’t begin to fathom.
Also Bernie.