In the video, several marked and unmarked Customs and Border Protection vehicles can be seen pulling into the parking lot as several apparently armed agents got out of the vehicles.
School officials in Pico Rivera are calling for a federal investigation after immigration enforcement officers were seen on surveillance video appearing to urinate in the campus parking lot.
The incident happened on the morning of June 17, at Ruben Salazar High School in Pico Rivera. The El Rancho Unified School District shared surveillance video from the school parking lot on YouTube on Wednesday.
Over the next few minutes, nearly a dozen agents are seen walking to a part of the parking lot, near a couple of shipping containers. The agents seem to reach for their pants while walking to covered areas, stand still for several moments, then walk away. The district says school staff saw the agents peeing.
ICE agents exposed themselves to staff in a parking lot next to a preschool playground and an in-session elementary school. These agents need to be identified and prosecuted just like anyone else would be in such circumstances.
Doing this would get a person on the sex offender registry in my state.
Pigs IRL
It’s always the ones you most expect.
“This matter is under investigation,” the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement.
“We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.”
Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes. And do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.
I don’t think there are any ICE agents on Lemmy, nor do I think they’re the kind of people who think about consequences.
Unfortunately there are some users on Lemmy very ready to see ICE’s new budget justify political deportations. But yeah, I don’t think any of them would have any cognitive dissonance about it.
Is this at a high school or a preschool?
Also how is it “alleged” if there’s literally photo and video proof right in front of me?
I believe reporters could get sued if they state that someone committed a crime before they are found guilty, even when it’s very clear they did it.
It is a high school next to an elementary school with a playground for preschoolers. The video shows the men walking up to the containers and apparently urinating, but you cannot specifically see that that is what they are doing. The staff at the school however did see that they were urinating.
That’s wild
I mean outside of how pissing outside on a school would land any of us on a list…how absolutely disrespectful and unprofessional for a public servant to piss outside at a school during the school day.
That’s not how to conduct yourself in society…it’s how I imagine a bunch of disrespectful soldiers might treat the citizens of an invaded country they look down on.
That is a lot of white panel vans pulling into a school.
So that’s a registry worthy crime, right?
Peeing in public gets you put on the sex offender list? The fuck kinda laws is that haha.
“ICE agents unlawfully trespassed ERUSD school grounds and did not exercise sound and respectful judgment with the risk of exposing themselves to minors and committing a public offense under California law.”
Yeah, they should be in a registry, and lose their jobs. Anything less would be special treatment and a double-standard, since they were clearly breaking multiple laws.
Most (proper laws) laws require intent. Unless they purposely exposed themselves… Peeing in a corner exposes nothing and doesn’t fit any definition of “intent”. Why would this suddenly be any different?
These blanket laws are usually to get vagrants being in an alley.
It’s not a double standard, it’s a blanket law that shouldn’t exist to begin with lmfao.
Pissing in public shouldn’t net you a sex offender list ANYWHERE, where is the intent to expose to someone else or a minor? But bloviate about double standards I guess… yeesh lmfao.
It’s not illegal to piss outside in California. It’s illegal to create a nuisance to public health like leaving a puddle of piss on a paved playground, and it’s illegal to piss “lewdly” which doesn’t just mean sexual it includes when you did it right in front of the security camera trying to offend the liberal teachers who won’t let you in the building and show them how above the law you are.
Most (proper laws) laws require intent.
Some laws are “strict liability”. I think some sex crimes are, for example
This is the same place that charges criminals for murder that police do yeah…?
Maybe the issue is the basis of the laws in your country to even begin with…?
These aren’t normal laws in other countries fyi.
The idea originated in Britain, per Wikipedia. This isn’t a uniquely American problem
You can make an argument that we shouldn’t have inherited Britain’s legal system, but that’s a pretty big argument
If it originated there, why doesn’t Canada have it lmfao.
I can actually make that argument, and a very good one that intent is very important.
Welcome to the USA!
If he’s at a school then yes that’s exact how the law works.
Even if there are no kids there?
Quite often yes. Because the laws don’t usually specify anything about time of day or school activity, just location. Peeing on the fence at 230 am at the school down the street from the dozens of downtown bars? Sex offender registry. Clearly you’re a pervert. And many State registries do little to differentiate severity or disclosing types of offenses, so that drunk guy pissing on the fence will be listed right alongside the church pastor that forcibly raped several dozen children.
This one I’m not sure on, but if it’s during school hours or daylight I’m pretty sure yes. If it’s like the middle of the night I think it’s less clear, but each of the 50 states each have their own laws so no idea then. I’d wager yeah they could still charge you for that and leave it up to the court.
Intent matters for laws that are meant to be used properly.
Unless they intentionally exposed themselves, pissing in public shouldn’t net you a sex offenders list standing.
Never heard of strict liability?
Of course, that’s not a thing in every country. This is the same country that applies murder to criminals when cops kill people, so not surprised they wouldn’t care about intent for other laws.
What a wild fucking place lmfao.
Many European countries have strict liability and some of the EUs dirctives themselves have strict liability.
What a wild place lmfao.
Source for EU? And for sex offences atleast.
Sounds like you’re trying to apply other law areas with strict liability to this one blanketly, which isn’t how it works…z
As a semi aside blanket laws are no good anywhere, you’re not advocating for blanket laws are you…? Hope not.
I actually went to high school in Michigan and one of my classmates almost got on the list for mooning some girls from the back window of a friends car on the parking lot. His parents paid a shit ton for lawyers to make it go away otherwise he wouldn‘t have been able to go to College.
The mooning in question was him exposing maybe the top 2 inches of his buttcrack, no spreading his cheeks or showing any male sex organs.
That’s quite a bit different than someone pulling their weiner out and peeing against a tree where no one can see anything. I hope you can see this.
I hope you can see that they are being paid by the federal government to disappear people and are on school property pissing instead of doing what any other professional on their shift would do and find another place.
You are right it’s very different. A high school person playing around with people his same age should certainly have to defend his case. Every ice agent should also have to explain why they were unable to use all their tactical gear and vehicles and planning to travel elsewhere to pee somewhere instead of literally exposing themselves on visible camera footage on school grounds. Every time you give them an inch it will become a mile
I’ve heard getting caught peeing in the woods in the middle of the night in some places can get you on the list
Yeah, no.
I’ve never been in the USA, but my cousin lives there, so she had legal practice connected to softening terms or whatever, I don’t remember, for such sex offenders.
Say, there was a story when a guy decided to take a shit on the car of someone who insulted him, and didn’t see that there was a kid in that car. So the intended offense was much less than what, eh, he actually got.
For these HEROES? Paid vacation until the public forgets. And maybe a promotion afterward. Ohh, and don’t forget backpay.
I’m sure both those ICE Agents will be promoted.
At the least, suspended with pay while an internal investigation finds no wrongdoing.
Pedos exposing themselves.
In this case I think it might just be complete disdain for basic human dignity.
If anyone else did this, they’d be labeled as a pedophile and prosecuted for indecent exposure/public urination. Especially for doing it on campus, and in possible view of small children
Just want to add that luckily this is not the case in most of the world.
Get em all on the sex offender registry
there’s no way some of them (or lots of them) aren’t already on it
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn if they use the sex offender registry to recruit for ICE
I hope these ICE agents, who were undeniably illegally urinating on school property, get what they deserve. This is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.
Literally acting like feral dogs.
A 10 year old black boy in Mississippi was arrested and prosecuted for doing that behind the car while his mother was at an appointment
