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  • zxqwas@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Tax. Noone wants their money to be taken away. But it’s probably a good idea to have at least some government funded stuff.

    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip
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      9 hours ago

      I mean, corrupted administration aside, is it really even “evil” to fund a institution that forsee the development of your surrounding? If anything it’s simply quid pro quo, and people who generally against any taxation is always fishy to me.

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        9 hours ago

        It’s evil to take someones money. It’s necessary because it funds the surrounding. A necessary evil, as op asked for.

        • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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          8 hours ago

          It’s evil to take someones money.

          Except when you are buying things? Look at it as living in society with roads, fire fighters and clean water requires a purchase.

          There is nothing morally wrong with paying people who provide a service.

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          It is only if it’s taken without something in return though, akin to stealing or robbing, else taking someones money in return for a service or goods would count as evil. Taxation always come with expectation of something in return, it’s in some way similar to paying for service.

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      11 hours ago

      For the general masses that lack fucking brain cells. Some people actually comprehend the value of society and central public resources and WANT their money collectively put to good use.

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        11 hours ago

        Polarization is causing a lot of people to doubt that the collective money actually will be put to good use. In a lot of places (like my country, Israel) they’re damn right, it’s not.

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      11 hours ago

      I might be wrong but I think people would gladly pay 50% of their income as tax if it meant they would get their basic needs met and see the money be put to a good use. Imagine getting just half your pay but be able to fully use it on whatever you want and not have to worry about food and rent. Or at least that’s what I’d like to believe.

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        10 hours ago

        The tax being on your income and not entirely on corporations always felt like a fairly biased distinction. If companies paid the entire income tax long before it got to you, and you were simply paid ~2/3rds as much, I feel like people’s opinions would be different despite not much changing.

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          9 hours ago

          Tax laws are usually made to make it easy to collect, hard to dodge taxes.

          If companies pay all the tax I could create a company, invoice my current employer, pay myself a salary that is equal to the entire profit margin. There is nothing left to tax.

          You could try to patch the loophole but then you’ll break down something else.

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        9 hours ago

        Where I live a majority of the voters are generally okay with high taxes (35%-50%) as long as it’s only shared with other people who works and pays taxes.

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            7 hours ago

            Plenty of people think they’re already getting more than they need and anyone who says otherwise is just pretending to be ill to get a free ride at the taxpayers’ expense, and could just get a job if they wanted. The right wing press pushes this narrative and people fall for it.

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              Agreed, just wanted to see if the OP would admit to it as well. Fully expect either no response or a passing of the buck along the lines of ‘I want to help who need it, but people hypothetically could take advantage of the system so let’s just scrap the whole thing.’

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                I didn’t read it as the OP expressing their own opinion, but instead sharing what the majority of voters in their area think.