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  • zlatiah@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Chinese. I… don’t think China accepts immigration, so I don’t think it matters what most Chinese people think of Americans. Not that I think China would be an ideal expat destination for most Americans anyway… China also have most of the problems US have. Maybe for some highly accomplished scientists/business executives who can be offered a job (since China is spending a lot on R&D), but that’s probably it

    As someone who lived in the US for a long time and actively considered this?

    • Northern European countries are nice for anyone who doesn’t mind living like a vampire; there is basically no sunlight in winter, but they are probably the best in terms of providing what an “average person” wants and needs
    • There are countries here and there which have low cost-of-living and high quality-of-life, assuming that I only want to be an “expat” who wants to live temporarily and am not trying to find work there (remote work, savings, or something else). My parents insist that Thailand fits this category; I believe several South American countries fit the bill as well
    • Realistically, if I actually want to immigrate, it will probably end up being one of the random EU countries, whichever I can get in via ancestry or find a job in…
    • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
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      47 minutes ago

      I’m an American often in China for my job. If you want to be in a tier 1 city rent relative to income is insane even compared to Canada (and by extension the US). If you’re a foreigner in a skilled profession who can secure a job there, this would be pretty easily avoided as your salary will typically be far above average and housing likely even paid for by the company sponsoring you.

      The downside is that the expectation of workers and office culture is also drastically different than in the US. Your savings also won’t go as far should you ever choose to leave. Mandarin is pretty difficult to learn, particularly for reading characters which is more or less essential to get around New areas efficiently.

      People are surprisingly quite nice to foreigners. I’ve never had a problem with the complete lack of privacy personally, since everything in public is tracked/recorded crime is incredibly low. But I have the ability to make that choice while others don’t, so I can get why it’s an issue for some. It’s a weird contrast from the US where the police are most certainly not your friend and the government is too disorganized to help even when they have all the relevant information. The urbanism is everything you’d imagine it to be, even in tier 2/3 cities it’s incredibly easy to get around without a car. If I weren’t tied to my family in the US I’d likely consider spending a few years working there while still young. But even then it would be hard to justify such a huge pay cut from US engineering salaries.