The MEXICAN government ruling in the interests of the people? This is absolutely delusional. Mexico is one of the most corrupt, dangerous, and unstable places in the world. The country is quickly turning into a warzone because of the cartels, and both the current and previous presidents and their government aren’t doing anything about it because they’re bought.
A government making a chocolate bar to distract from the crippling poverty and crime is not good governance, it’s the opposite.
Mexico’s murder rate per 100 000 is 24.9, meaning you’re on average safer in Mexico than in Newark, Memphis, Cleveland, Kansas City, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore or St. Louis.
Never mind that murders in Mexico are generally committed using American firearms, and for American money over drugs that are to be sold in America. Mexico’s problem is America. So while we wait for America to selfdestruct, I guess they might as well get to work on public health issues.
Obviously not saying that cartels are not a huge fucking problem. It’s hard to get good politicians when they murder anyone who resists them. But the cartels are in large part a product of America’s failures. Europeans are not innocent either - fuck every coke snorting upper class brat who is having their pathetic highs at the expense of a whole fucking continent.
First of all, why are you comparing the homicide rate a country to specific cities? That’s the epitome of cherry picking. Compare country to country like a normal person. The US homicide rate in 2023 was 5.763 (ranks 66th), and Mexico’s in the same year was 24.859 (18th). This means that Mexico’s homicide rate is more than FOUR times higher than America’s homicide rate. Mexico’s homicide rate is so insanely high that it has more total murders annually (32,252) than the US (19,796), a country with 3x it’s population. The difference alone is so high that if it was ranked globally, it would rank 8th ahead of Pakistan and below Colombia, both notoriously dangerous countries with very high populations. Do you understand just how insanely dangerous Mexico is? Clearly not.
What’s crazy is that the US is a dangerous country. It is the most dangerous developed country by far. For Mexico to make the US look this safe in comparison means that it’s basically a war zone, and it is. Mexico is quite literally classified as one of the handful of countries that is experience a major war. That’s how bad the cartel wars have gotten. Pretending that US is anywhere near Mexico is beyond disingenuous.
But do you know what the federal Mexican government is doing about all the cartels and their rapes, human trafficking, drugs, violence, assassinations of local politicians, persecution of journalists, extortion, massacres, racketeering, barbaric executions, fraud, and literal fucking torture concentration camps? Nothing. They’re doing nothing. The current president, Sheinbaum, and her predecessor, AMLO, are both notorious for enabling the cartels. They let them do whatever they want without any consequences, and the people are paying the price for it.
No Mexican is going to ever tell you that the cartels are the fault of America. That’s the most mind numbingly idiotic take that anybody could have about the situation there. This is how I know that you’ve never talked to a Mexican in your life. Trying to infantilize Mexicans by blaming the issues of their country on America or Europe is just racism of low expectations. Mexico has agency and Mexican know that this the doing of their government’s corruption, incompetence, and negligence. These cartels should’ve been squashed the moment they arose, but they weren’t and they still aren’t even though things are getting out of control. This brainrotted mentality of thinking that you’re smart for blaming America for anything and everything neither makes you sound smart nor does it make your assertions true. The same goes for saying “America bad” as a comparison, it doesn’t negate the points brought up.
You can play all the mental gymnastics you want, it’s not going to change the fact that Mexico is an incredibly dangerous place and the Mexican government is not ruling in the interests of its people, and nobody is more vocal about this than Mexicans.
Mexico is not one place, it is many places. Yucatán has lower homicide rates than Wyoming.
I wonder where you think the cartels gets their weapons from. Mexico has strict gun laws. Or their money - it doesn’t just spawn out of nowhere. Parts of Mexico are dangerous because they are part of an illegal trade route to the US, fuelled by American weapons and American money, and that is that.
Clearly you’ve never set foot in Mexico and if you have, you’ve only been to a heavily guarded resort in a place like Cancun with other white Americans. If you’re going to sit here and argue that Mexico is wealthy, safe, or that it’s government is doing good then you’re literally too ignorant for this conversation.
Just an FYI for anybody reading this thread, this guy is a well known troll on here. If you go through his comment history, he calls EVERYTHING zionist regardless of validity or context.
Sure i am a troll who call everybody a zionist. Like one of the guys not you who said gazans voted for hamas so palestinians deserve what happened to them
Good thing I’ve never said that, and I know you won’t be able to find a single comment to prove your claim either. I see you under every other post with your bad english claiming that everyone and everything is a zionist who loves genocide regardless of context, validity, or relevance. There’s never any evidence, but that won’t stop you making stuff up. Like I said, you’re a troll.
A bunch of bs. Your comment by my English show that you have no real arguments. English is my 3rd language, you can’t expect my English to be perfect. I only call people who every time Israel break international laws keep talking about iran, khamas , khizbollah and never ever talk about how israel war crimes.
You justified people getting arrested for protesting against calling Palestine actions. You justified Israel attack on Iran. Striking nuclear facilities is a war crime under international law. So stop pretending that you are not a zionist.
Anybody can check our comments histories and see who is lying.
A bunch of bs. Your comment by my English show that you have no real arguments. English is my 3rd language, you can’t expect my English to be perfect.
There’s difference between being perfect and being hard to understand, you’re the latter. I also speak another language, I speak Arabic, but you don’t seem to have an issue making out what I say.
So stop pretending that you are not a zionist.
You’re a zionist
Anybody can check our comments histories and see who is lying.
They’re more than welcome too
You are not only a Zionist but also a transphobic
Let’s see the treasure chest that is your moderation history:
It looks like I’m not the only one who noticed you’re a troll. You’re the only troll on this site who can manage to turn a post about Mexican chocolate bars into a pissing match about Israel where you case every atom in the universe of being zionist.
By whether they’re making verifiable and objective claims? They aren’t, really, and they certainly didn’t source theirs, but it’s a lot more convincing to say that instead of making your own unsourced accusations.
I think the issue is that you’ve not provided evidence that the other user supports Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
At the end of the day it’s just an internet argument and not worth it, but if you want to make your point, I’d start by getting that evidence.
I do agree in principle that I would think twice before agreeing with any position a genocide supporter takes, though that doesn’t necessarily mean I will disagree on any particular point after giving it due thought. If they said throwing puppies from a roof was bad, I’d agree, for example.
I was there a year ago. It was nice enough, not nearly as worrisome as I thought it would be. Yes, I stayed in the tourist areas, no I didn’t wander into the rural areas, no I didn’t try to start shit in clubs, yes I saw armed military on patrol. There were a lot of people trying to live their lives despite the serious crime in the region.
There are absolutely terrible things happening there and I would love for them to get better. I can say the same thing about the US. At least Mexico isn’t waging war on my country, trade or otherwise.
Where did you go? Culiacan? Mazatlan? If you stuck exclusively to the tourist areas and made sure you were on red alert all the time, and tried to avoid wandering anywhere or having any sort of confrontation, then you would be fine for the most part… but that in itself isn’t normal. By having that sort of discipline out of fear goes beyond the scope of normal tourist precautions.
Also, even though the US is dangerous in its own right, and has plenty of issues, it is not at all comparable to Mexico. The US homicide rate is a quarter of Mexico’s and it has been declining sharply over the past few years. There’s nothing like the cartels in the country, most of the crime is localized. There aren’t organized crime syndicates running entire cities.
You say that like most governments are acting like the US, which is just so dumb. Your comment reeks of “I only know about the US government and nothing else”.
American government: Builds concentration camps
Mexican government: Develops brand new chocolate bars
I’m happy to see there are still some governments out there who rule in the interest of the people.
A high quality chocolate bar, at that.
Well, depends on if the advertising matches the product.
I mean, they list the ingredients and percentages.
They list what they claim are the ingredients and percentages.
They’re also the state. Who is going to fine them?
The MEXICAN government ruling in the interests of the people? This is absolutely delusional. Mexico is one of the most corrupt, dangerous, and unstable places in the world. The country is quickly turning into a warzone because of the cartels, and both the current and previous presidents and their government aren’t doing anything about it because they’re bought.
A government making a chocolate bar to distract from the crippling poverty and crime is not good governance, it’s the opposite.
Mexico’s murder rate per 100 000 is 24.9, meaning you’re on average safer in Mexico than in Newark, Memphis, Cleveland, Kansas City, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore or St. Louis.
Never mind that murders in Mexico are generally committed using American firearms, and for American money over drugs that are to be sold in America. Mexico’s problem is America. So while we wait for America to selfdestruct, I guess they might as well get to work on public health issues.
Obviously not saying that cartels are not a huge fucking problem. It’s hard to get good politicians when they murder anyone who resists them. But the cartels are in large part a product of America’s failures. Europeans are not innocent either - fuck every coke snorting upper class brat who is having their pathetic highs at the expense of a whole fucking continent.
/rant
What a load of nonsense
First of all, why are you comparing the homicide rate a country to specific cities? That’s the epitome of cherry picking. Compare country to country like a normal person. The US homicide rate in 2023 was 5.763 (ranks 66th), and Mexico’s in the same year was 24.859 (18th). This means that Mexico’s homicide rate is more than FOUR times higher than America’s homicide rate. Mexico’s homicide rate is so insanely high that it has more total murders annually (32,252) than the US (19,796), a country with 3x it’s population. The difference alone is so high that if it was ranked globally, it would rank 8th ahead of Pakistan and below Colombia, both notoriously dangerous countries with very high populations. Do you understand just how insanely dangerous Mexico is? Clearly not.
What’s crazy is that the US is a dangerous country. It is the most dangerous developed country by far. For Mexico to make the US look this safe in comparison means that it’s basically a war zone, and it is. Mexico is quite literally classified as one of the handful of countries that is experience a major war. That’s how bad the cartel wars have gotten. Pretending that US is anywhere near Mexico is beyond disingenuous.
But do you know what the federal Mexican government is doing about all the cartels and their rapes, human trafficking, drugs, violence, assassinations of local politicians, persecution of journalists, extortion, massacres, racketeering, barbaric executions, fraud, and literal fucking torture concentration camps? Nothing. They’re doing nothing. The current president, Sheinbaum, and her predecessor, AMLO, are both notorious for enabling the cartels. They let them do whatever they want without any consequences, and the people are paying the price for it.
No Mexican is going to ever tell you that the cartels are the fault of America. That’s the most mind numbingly idiotic take that anybody could have about the situation there. This is how I know that you’ve never talked to a Mexican in your life. Trying to infantilize Mexicans by blaming the issues of their country on America or Europe is just racism of low expectations. Mexico has agency and Mexican know that this the doing of their government’s corruption, incompetence, and negligence. These cartels should’ve been squashed the moment they arose, but they weren’t and they still aren’t even though things are getting out of control. This brainrotted mentality of thinking that you’re smart for blaming America for anything and everything neither makes you sound smart nor does it make your assertions true. The same goes for saying “America bad” as a comparison, it doesn’t negate the points brought up.
You can play all the mental gymnastics you want, it’s not going to change the fact that Mexico is an incredibly dangerous place and the Mexican government is not ruling in the interests of its people, and nobody is more vocal about this than Mexicans.
Mexico is not one place, it is many places. Yucatán has lower homicide rates than Wyoming.
I wonder where you think the cartels gets their weapons from. Mexico has strict gun laws. Or their money - it doesn’t just spawn out of nowhere. Parts of Mexico are dangerous because they are part of an illegal trade route to the US, fuelled by American weapons and American money, and that is that.
Wait I’m confused, so Mexico is safer than the USA, but they murder any politician who goes against the cartel?
Doesn’t sound so safe to me?
Must be easy to get confused when you can only have one thought in your head at a time, and barely even that.
I’m sure that sounded better in your head than it read.
It’s okay, you still have worth!
but the stats said it is safer!!! /s
Tell me you haven’t been to Mexico without telling me you haven’t been to Mexico.
Clearly you’ve never set foot in Mexico and if you have, you’ve only been to a heavily guarded resort in a place like Cancun with other white Americans. If you’re going to sit here and argue that Mexico is wealthy, safe, or that it’s government is doing good then you’re literally too ignorant for this conversation.
I live in here in Mexico and they did not lie at all
Political stuff aside… I’d love to visit Mexico, it looks like an absolutely beautiful place!
This guy is a zionist. Don’t waste your time with him
Just an FYI for anybody reading this thread, this guy is a well known troll on here. If you go through his comment history, he calls EVERYTHING zionist regardless of validity or context.
Sure i am a troll who call everybody a zionist. Like one of the guys not you who said gazans voted for hamas so palestinians deserve what happened to them
Good thing I’ve never said that, and I know you won’t be able to find a single comment to prove your claim either. I see you under every other post with your bad english claiming that everyone and everything is a zionist who loves genocide regardless of context, validity, or relevance. There’s never any evidence, but that won’t stop you making stuff up. Like I said, you’re a troll.
A bunch of bs. Your comment by my English show that you have no real arguments. English is my 3rd language, you can’t expect my English to be perfect. I only call people who every time Israel break international laws keep talking about iran, khamas , khizbollah and never ever talk about how israel war crimes.
You justified people getting arrested for protesting against calling Palestine actions. You justified Israel attack on Iran. Striking nuclear facilities is a war crime under international law. So stop pretending that you are not a zionist.
Anybody can check our comments histories and see who is lying.
You are not only a Zionist but also a transphobic
There’s difference between being perfect and being hard to understand, you’re the latter. I also speak another language, I speak Arabic, but you don’t seem to have an issue making out what I say.
You’re a zionist
They’re more than welcome too
Let’s see the treasure chest that is your moderation history:
It looks like I’m not the only one who noticed you’re a troll. You’re the only troll on this site who can manage to turn a post about Mexican chocolate bars into a pissing match about Israel where you case every atom in the universe of being zionist.
Seems a little off topic and unsourced?
If someone justify a genocide how can you him in anything?
By whether they’re making verifiable and objective claims? They aren’t, really, and they certainly didn’t source theirs, but it’s a lot more convincing to say that instead of making your own unsourced accusations.
I think the issue is that you’ve not provided evidence that the other user supports Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
At the end of the day it’s just an internet argument and not worth it, but if you want to make your point, I’d start by getting that evidence.
I do agree in principle that I would think twice before agreeing with any position a genocide supporter takes, though that doesn’t necessarily mean I will disagree on any particular point after giving it due thought. If they said throwing puppies from a roof was bad, I’d agree, for example.
Have you been to Mexico? How about you take a little vacation to Sinaloa to prove me wrong?
Sinaloa has some great towns
Sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s a safe place though
I was there a year ago. It was nice enough, not nearly as worrisome as I thought it would be. Yes, I stayed in the tourist areas, no I didn’t wander into the rural areas, no I didn’t try to start shit in clubs, yes I saw armed military on patrol. There were a lot of people trying to live their lives despite the serious crime in the region.
There are absolutely terrible things happening there and I would love for them to get better. I can say the same thing about the US. At least Mexico isn’t waging war on my country, trade or otherwise.
Where did you go? Culiacan? Mazatlan? If you stuck exclusively to the tourist areas and made sure you were on red alert all the time, and tried to avoid wandering anywhere or having any sort of confrontation, then you would be fine for the most part… but that in itself isn’t normal. By having that sort of discipline out of fear goes beyond the scope of normal tourist precautions.
Also, even though the US is dangerous in its own right, and has plenty of issues, it is not at all comparable to Mexico. The US homicide rate is a quarter of Mexico’s and it has been declining sharply over the past few years. There’s nothing like the cartels in the country, most of the crime is localized. There aren’t organized crime syndicates running entire cities.
You say that like most governments are acting like the US, which is just so dumb. Your comment reeks of “I only know about the US government and nothing else”.