• quetzaldilla@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    A complex problem is scary for intellectually lazy or emotionally immature people.

    It’s easier for them to believe there is a simple solution but the “deep state” is preventing the solution from happening, or that a “savior” will come and fix it all for us while we sit back and watch Netflix.

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    1 day ago

    I would like to petition /c/News to ban all PsyPost links, as they are universally clickbait garbage.

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    I’ve only read the headline, but I can already tell this is brilliant! Ten stars. No notes.

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    So you’re telling me that all of my coworkers who blew there 401k on crypto and who are currently working insane OT to do it again are stupid? I’m shocked I tell you!

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      Whatever bro, my Narco Opossum NFT’s are a long term investment. We just need to get some shoutouts from TikTok influencers and Twitch streamers and we’ll be so fucking back.

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      13 hours ago

      Sounds like investing was not the problem. Selling it was 🤪

      Edit: I just remembered crypto is more than Bitcoin. Ignore me.

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    I’ve been talking about this for a while, but it goes well beyond those who simply have “lower cognitive ability”. Plenty of intelligent people fall victim to traps in their thinking.

    A few observations I’ve made on the matter.

    • People, in my observations, are deeply uncomfortable with uncertainty. In general, people will prefer a wrong belief on a matter or issue, rather than holding back from having any belief at all. As well, most people do not seem to understand uncertainty as a principal, and specifically, the relationship between how they use the word and think about the concept of “truth”, versus, “truth” in the context of the scientific method and data. I’ve witnessed, first hand, well placed, highly intelligent professionals choosing to believe things they know to be wrong, on issues that have consequences for millions of people and billions of dollars in resources. My assertion is that people would rather be confidently wrong than not have an answer, or have to hold onto uncertainty.

    • People take great pleasure in being “holders of the secret knowledge”. Its my observation, that because we live in a grossly dis-empowering society, which in a social manner is authoritarian to its core, people will embrace any kind of thinking or believe that gives them a sense of power over others. This includes racism, sexism, nationalism, and all forms of authoritarianism. But it goes well beyond this, especially in regards to things like conspiracy theory. The sensation, the idea that you have the “secret knowledge”, that you know something that no one else knows. The dopamine release that comes from the sensation of knowing something other people don’t, even if its false knowledge and maybe somewhere deep in your core you know its false, its a real thing. It also creates an identity structure based on in-group/ out-group mentality; you get to be a part of the selected few. Its my belief that this structure was fundamental to the rise of the MAGA movement, although one might argue that in some senses their secret knowledge ‘became’ real knowledge. For example, the phrase “stand back and stand by” went from pseudo-conspiratorial “secret knowledge” to real “secret knowledge” by evidence of the act on behalf of Trump. This structure has been exponentially expanded with the elevation of extreme conspiracy high priests like RFK Jr, MTG, and even Trump themselves.

    • And perhaps most importantly, the high priests of this new religion of psuedo-consipiratorial, baseless but pleasurable belief, are both victim to, and creator of these structures. Trump is not immune to the same thinking his base falls victim to in this regard, and I belief that in a sense, there has been a propaganda campaign built for one, targeting Trump directly, going on for decades. But the broader point is that the purveyors of this snake oil are they themselves also victim to their own poison. It becomes a recursive “amplification of idiocy” process where a high priest puts out some bullshit, the followers make up bullshit to support the claims of the high priest, and the high priest cites that bullshit to confirm their belief. The result is a runaway amplification of “wrong think” feedback, like feedback into a PA system, or how when you feed output from an ML process back in on itself,it goes completely off the rails.

    I used right wing examples here to make the point, but I want to be very clear, that there are those on the left and most specifically, those who identify as “centrists” or “moderates”; those we might classify as “blue dog” or “blue maga” who also are extremely vulnerable to the kind of “pleasurable in-group self sucking” to end up in intellectual and ideological positions that are utterly untenable. This issue goes well beyond particular ideologies, and may find its basis in human evolution, where it might be a positive selective trait to “believe something extreme”, even if that belief is utterly wrong or incoherent.

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      So all parts of the political spectrum fall victim to this except the one you identify with?

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        Did I specify either: a part of the political spectrum that doesn’t fall victim to this; or a part of the political spectrum I identify with?

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          You named the right wing and centrists. I know the second part from your many other public statements.

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            Like you point out, my comments are all publicly available. I’m sure if what you are saying is the case then you can drum up some form of positive evidence of this. But I too am also fairly familiar with what I’ve put out, and I’ve been extremely critical of both Democrats and “the left” as a greater project in the lack of rigor they bring to their strategy.

            I’m not suggesting the “left” is free from this whats-over. Search my comment history for my opinion on the “left” and the edging display Rachel Maddow engaged in (my self included) for literally years waiting for that second shoe.

            The examples I put out I put out because they are good examples. I don’t think there are better examples of this phenomena in political circles than first and foremost 1) Trump and the MAGA movement, and 2) the collective self deception of Democrats, specifically the Blue MAGA/ Blue dog/ BAU/ “moderate” wing of the party in specifically the previous 4 years. The consequences for engagement in fantastical thinking and self deception on the part of MAGA is very obvious and very on display and so warrant less time. There are also many people covering this issue. The consequences for engagement in fantastical thinking and self deception on the part of Blue MAGA are less obvious, although perhaps, no less consequential. They warrant more time and coverage because of this.

            If you have good examples of this happening on the left, but outside of the centrist/ Blue MAGA disaster which was the DNC in 2024, you are more than welcome to share it with the class. Otherwise, if its just you circle jerking because “I dont like how these words make me feel”, maybe have a seat.

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    If you take out ‘unparalleled’, the sentence “Hidden meaning transforms unparalleled abstract beauty” makes sense… Generating a sentence from random buzz-words doesn’t make it meaningless…

    For those downvoting: imagine you look at an abstract painting. It’s beautiful, but you don’t know what it is. Then someone tells you it’s a vulva. Now you can’t unsee it. The abstract beauty has been transformed by hidden meaning…

    The same goes for “thoughts can influence physical objects.” If they couldn’t, you wouldn’t be able to move your hand to scratch your ass when it gets itchy.

    I know what they are trying to say with these sentences and would absolutely get the answers right on their test. But I would get them right because I know what they want for an answer. This is sloppy research, and the correlation between intelligence and correct answers on their test is very likely due to theory of mind and meta-cognitive reasoning…

    This article is pseudo-profound bullshit.