• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    without showing a warrant

    I’m so tired of the legalist caveat, implying a Trump judge rubber stamping warrants for these gestapo shits would have made kidnapping and torturing a woman and her infant child acceptable.

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      23 hours ago

      But it does highlight that any random brute could put on a mask and do this with no authorization whatsoever. It’s a fundamental human-rights and rule-of-law breakdown to fail to present a warrant. I agree that a warrant doesn’t ethically make the arrests anything short of monstrous, though. That kind of legalist can suck eggs.

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        But it does highlight that any random brute could put on a mask and do this with no authorization whatsoever

        I believe this a part of the plan.

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      The war for ethics has been lost decades ago. Legality is fickle and often unjust but it’s all that people have at this point.

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        It isn’t. The modern law is a fig leaf over naked plutocracy and apartheid.

        It’s what we have in the same way a knife in your back is something you have

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          And yet people would rather hold on to a terrible status quo than risk it. Especially in times of desperation, and as long as they’re aware things could be worse (for them personally).

          It’s the big catch-22 of modern civics and political engagement. Terrible conditions make many people look towards the systems and rulers that bring about those terrible conditions.