Absolutely,valid protest is valid. But it’s not the act of protesting that makes someone right. I understand the farmers in that they get a tool taken from them that saved them a lot of time, and they probably have long term contracts with the companies selling that stuff. However they are objectively wrong to push for a product that is this harmful.

No a lot of the old resistance weren’t tools, but they (Israël) have learned from that. So they have cultivated resistance that is shaped to look like the kind of thing the West fears (wether you call it Islamophobia or not, it works) . Secular, leftist groups easily got sympaty abroad while religiously inspired fanatics get easily classified with groups like ISIS or Boko Haram. And I’m not saying they are like thise groups just that they have properties that allow people to classify them in the same range, and that is by Israeli design.

If you want help in your war, get an enemy that other people don’t like as well. Make them strong enough that they can really hurt, but not strong enough that they have a chance of winning and let them attack civilians and minor military targets but never the real policy makers. That is absolutely what Israel has done.

That last sentence describes you perfectly. Damn it’s sad.

I don’t know if there is significant real resistance as Hamas will happily target rival groups. Besides it’s oppressive government 101 that since there will be resistance, you (the government) organize it yourself, so you know and control who’s in it. A smart oppressive government doesn’t leave that to chance, and whatever else the Israeli government is, they are not stupid.

Yes, indeed.

It was very much sponsored by Israel. You may not want to see it but that is a you problem. It’s pretty well documenten. The PA is also no more than a tool for Israël, and just as complicit in the whole thing.

I don’t propose stripping the right of armed resistance.

They are not equal one is a tool of the other. I miss when we had Arafat and Rabin and hope.

Yes I assign blame to Hamas because they’re the puppet that gives a tiny bit of legitimacy to the horrors Israel is commiting in the eyes of the West.

This does not in any way reduce Israel’s responsibility in this at all quite the contrary. The fact that they use Hamas, and Hamas uses the Palestinian population in this way makes it much and much worse. If Hamas were a legitimate resistance they would go after leaders, real strategic targets and such not the attacks that are designed to cause outrage but have no value in advancing their supposed cause.

The only difference between us is that you fall wholeheartedly for the lie that is Hamas. You differentiate them from the PA, but they are one.

I understand that you feel that way. Israel has managed to make an unpalatable group the face of Palestine resistance. Frankly both Hamas and the Isreali government are complicit in the genocide. You are led to believe that if one side is evil the other must by default be good. In this case I only see a master and a puppet. The october 7 attacks were exactly what and when Netanyahu wanted. Hamas was groomed by Israel to shape as many Palestinians as possible into the kind of people that other nations fear and contributed with their own senseless violence to radicalize the survivors against them. Israel managed to paralyze the international community into inaction with telling them they are antisemites if they condemn their crimes. But those words ring more hollow every day. In an ideal world everyone responsible would be arrested and tried Neurenberg style. But apparently we’re all too afraid.

And what have they done to defend the people being genocided? Nothing at all. They’re like the kid who kicks the school bully from behind and runs, leaving only you for the bully to see when he turns around.

Hamas exists as it is today because it has been sponsored by Israel, while other, non religious extremist Palestinian parties/organisations were sabotaged by Israël. It was a clear choice to have an agressive and unreasonable opponent rather than a diplomatic partner that could be worked with towards a peaceful solution. Hamas is very much a creature of the Zionist Israeli politicians and has consistently worked against the interest of the Palestinian population to give Israel excuses to do what they do. Hamas is not worthy of your support, the Palestinian population who is caught up between all this, very much is.

Invaders is the correct term.

Belgian here, one who still has some sympathy for the royals, but that is not the point. I sincerely hope no special provisions are made for her and she makes a bit of a stink about having to go off to a non US university. Europe should be cutting as many ties with the US right now as it can. The princess being there at all really doesn’t give a good message.

He will do what you want, for about 5 minutes and then he’ll hold out his hand for more and fuck you over anyway.