Did your parents have sex around you as a child?
And if so, what (if any) effect has it had on you?
Is it weird/confusing/traumatic for children, or does it provide a healthier and more realistic model of sexuality than pornography and school-based sex education?
There have been plenty of reputable studies that show parents need to stop being casually naked in front of their children by a certain age. Usually 5/6 IIRC. Otherwise it causes a lot of confusion for the kids as they start to develop sexually and become more curious about their own genitals. They don’t know how to tease out the difference between “I like how that person looks “and “that’s my mom.”
If you’re trying to actually understand the subject, I would encourage you to look at some of those studies. Not that this isn’t a worthwhile exercise I don’t really know what you’re up to so it may be exactly what you need. But if you’re looking for real answers, I would start there
Edit: since people are whining and downvoting instead of doing a 5s cursory search:
https://lemmy.zip/comment/18727368
Link to those studies, please.
There’s a huge difference to just seeing a naked body doing its thing, like sauna, or swim, or relax in the sun, or sleeping, or ill; and the same body as an erotic object
That’s what I keep telling the community pool manager, but I’m still banned.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9681119/
Notice the studies almost always cap at 6. I say “almost” out of caution, I have always seen it as 5 or 6.
I’d also like to investigate how this jives with the well documented sexual attraction dynamics of siblings. Those who grow up together are almost never attracted to each other no matter how much they see each other naked. Those that are raised separately and meet for the first time as adults are often very attracted to each other due to genetic reasons that apparently we have a mechanism for overcoming when raised together. I would expect to find there was a similar mechanism regarding our parents.
I’m not getting bogged down in an argument picking apart my source because someone made up their mind already. Plenty to choose from it’s a well-trodden subject. Find a journal or outlet you respect.
FTFY
https://lemmy.zip/comment/18727368
Think what you want, you’re free to look it up or not. I don’t really care. I made an observation if yall want to follow it up or not. I’m not having a debate over this
If it’s so well trodden then share a review or meta-analysis, nobody (or at least not me, doubt anyone else either) will bother to dig out the referenced studies one by one.
https://lemmy.zip/comment/18727368
Citation required
Do the studies exist?
Since apparently I keep getting shit for not doing basic searches for an easy to find topic, here.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240241629_Childhood_Exposure_to_Parental_Nudity_Parent-Child_Co-Sleeping_and_Primal_Scenes_A_Review_of_Clinical_Opinion_and_Empirical_Evidence
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9681119/
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/parents-kids-stop-being-nude-193008929.html
Edit: oh look no responses. It’s almost as if I was right to not want to waste my time in the first place.
You clearly stated you didn’t want to have someone comb through you papers and argue, and their value as evidence is obvious to anyone who bothers to take a look, so the reaction of “nothing will come out of continuing this conversation” is quite understandable. I returned to say thank you for posting sources, but since you seem to take this as some kind of “stunned them to silence”…
The first two sources apparently refer to the same study; Okami 1995 is mostly literature review, methods, and intermediary results, while Okami 1998 is the final results.
Okami 1995: “Consistent with the cross-sectional retrospective literature (and with our expectations), no harmful main effects of these experiences were found at age 17-18. […] Taken as a whole then, effects are few, but generally beneficial in nature.”
Okami 1998: “No harmful “main effect” correlates of the predictor variables were found.”
So I fail to see how they’d support your point.
The last one, the Yahoo article, is not a study nor does it refer to any.
Okami 1998 also had a link to Lewis 1988, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3421828/: “The results suggest that childhood experiences with exposure to nudity and sleeping in the parental bed are not adversely related to adult sexual functioning and adjustment. In fact, there is modest support that these childhood experiences are positively related to indices of adjustment.”
Recognition of pre-existing bias: I’m Finnish, and this felt like an attack on family saunas.
I didn’t take it as “stunned them to silence.” I took it as “it is frustrating to continually be asked to do homework for everyone only to be met with radio silence or 50 people raising the same trite objection because they pretend they can’t see the other comments and want to dogpile.” I don’t care what caused the silence, it’s just frustrating.
Fair enough, it does suck. I for one remain unconvinced by your sources, but respect greatly both that you provided them, and your opinion as equivalent to any “based on my non-objective experience…” just like my own. Thank you.
Both of those first two studies (the third one is not a study) say that there’s actually not a significant harm, especially just for nudity.
Not to mention the fact that they’re both really old (pre-2000) and based on data collected from the 1970s to the 1990s and pre-date home internet access and only from data collected in the US(actually only in 3 cities in California)