“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. […] The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.” - Eisenhower
Kewl. If only there wasn’t a country that invaded another country on our borders, that openly talks about invading even more, fucking about with our utilities and using spies, the internet and sabotage to fuck around even more.
A comfy life needs to be secured with military might, like it or not. Otherwise you get assholes in shitholes trying to forcefully take it from you. Rome knew that, the US knows that, the EU knows this (otherwise it wouldn’t exist - since it is made to increase bargaining power and contains mutual defense clauses).
So until Russia stops being a militaristic shithole that invades its neighbors and starts building those schools, power plants, hospitals and highways, we need to spend taxes on military. And yes, Russia is a threat - Georgia shown us, 2014 has shown us, 2022 has shown us.
Compared to before, no, there aren’t. There has been an ongoing genocide since the tsarist times, that the soviet union “finished”. Thousands of people completely relocated. That’s why people are “wary” of Russia - because it is a genocidal state since time immemorial.
Well, that can be said about Greeks and Armenians in Crimea as well as Crimean Tatars. That’s because after Stalin’s forced movement to Kazakhstan (which is barbaric act, of course) or wherever, when descendants of those people were allowed to return, they were more likely to move elsewhere in the union. And after 1991 Greeks would often repatriate, well, to Greece, changing the ethnic character of the whole Russian and Ukrainian Black Sea coast, and Crimean Tatars to Turkey.
I think you also underestimate the role of Sevastopol. Purely due to strategic importance there’d be people coming from all parts of the empire and the union, and the “melting pot culture” there was Russian.
There has been an ongoing genocide since the tsarist times,
That’s a weird way to say this, before Crimea becoming part of the Russian Empire the actual Crimean Khanate didn’t exist for too long. It seems you have a misconception of Crimean Tatars being some sort of the native population of Crimea. They were not. They were a nomad vassal state to the Ottoman Empire, conquerors themselves. They weren’t the majority there ethnically under that khanate either.
That’s why people are “wary” of Russia - because it is a genocidal state since time immemorial.
That’s gross from someone who’s likely a US-American or a European. Also “time immemorial” doesn’t quite mean what you seem to think.
So they invaded Poland to get back at the US? Like they invaded Poland in 1920 when they got their ass handed to them by a newly sovereign country? Just like they are doing now to Ukraine?
The funny part is that Russia literally did it first, they occupied Poland for 123 years. Then Poland was reformed after WW1, along with Lithuania. Then of course the Russians attacked Poland 2 years after it was reformed / independent, and got their teeth kicked in so hard, they had to wait 20 years to try again and ally with Nazi Germany to succeed.
They got plenty of answers and in return get insults from you. So people don’t bother anymore, you are just one of the hundreds of tankies on this site that will completely deny truth and try to twist the narrative.
Shut the fuck up retard your country is paying for tanks in gaza right now and you care about what the ussr did in idk what eastern europe shithole 40 years ago?
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. […] The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.” - Eisenhower
Kewl. If only there wasn’t a country that invaded another country on our borders, that openly talks about invading even more, fucking about with our utilities and using spies, the internet and sabotage to fuck around even more.
A comfy life needs to be secured with military might, like it or not. Otherwise you get assholes in shitholes trying to forcefully take it from you. Rome knew that, the US knows that, the EU knows this (otherwise it wouldn’t exist - since it is made to increase bargaining power and contains mutual defense clauses).
So until Russia stops being a militaristic shithole that invades its neighbors and starts building those schools, power plants, hospitals and highways, we need to spend taxes on military. And yes, Russia is a threat - Georgia shown us, 2014 has shown us, 2022 has shown us.
You really like that weapon trader’s penis. Don’t forget to lick the shaft
Blame Russia.
Maybe the NATO shouldn’t have coup’ee the USSR in the 90ies then. They’re the one who created ultranationalist regimes in Russia. Remember Yeltsin?
And there it is, everything is NATOs fault. If only we gave everything to Russia, the world would be saved.
Tell me, why are there no more Tatars in Crimea?
This is like URSS bingo:
They were deported
They were starved to death
They were sent to war
…
There are, in fact, Tatars in Crimea.
Compared to before, no, there aren’t. There has been an ongoing genocide since the tsarist times, that the soviet union “finished”. Thousands of people completely relocated. That’s why people are “wary” of Russia - because it is a genocidal state since time immemorial.
Well, that can be said about Greeks and Armenians in Crimea as well as Crimean Tatars. That’s because after Stalin’s forced movement to Kazakhstan (which is barbaric act, of course) or wherever, when descendants of those people were allowed to return, they were more likely to move elsewhere in the union. And after 1991 Greeks would often repatriate, well, to Greece, changing the ethnic character of the whole Russian and Ukrainian Black Sea coast, and Crimean Tatars to Turkey.
I think you also underestimate the role of Sevastopol. Purely due to strategic importance there’d be people coming from all parts of the empire and the union, and the “melting pot culture” there was Russian.
That’s a weird way to say this, before Crimea becoming part of the Russian Empire the actual Crimean Khanate didn’t exist for too long. It seems you have a misconception of Crimean Tatars being some sort of the native population of Crimea. They were not. They were a nomad vassal state to the Ottoman Empire, conquerors themselves. They weren’t the majority there ethnically under that khanate either.
That’s gross from someone who’s likely a US-American or a European. Also “time immemorial” doesn’t quite mean what you seem to think.
Why did the US leagued with Germany to invade Russia in 1918?
Why did Russia league in with Nazi Germany to start World War 2?
Because that’s what the US did to them 25 years prior?
So they invaded Poland to get back at the US? Like they invaded Poland in 1920 when they got their ass handed to them by a newly sovereign country? Just like they are doing now to Ukraine?
This is the level we’re at huh
The funny part is that Russia literally did it first, they occupied Poland for 123 years. Then Poland was reformed after WW1, along with Lithuania. Then of course the Russians attacked Poland 2 years after it was reformed / independent, and got their teeth kicked in so hard, they had to wait 20 years to try again and ally with Nazi Germany to succeed.
Stop protecting yourselves! Or I’ll attack!!
Do you know why NATO exists?
https://www.occrp.org/en/news/nato-procurement-officials-face-corruption-probe
I love the silent downvote from people lmao. They got nothing to answers but they still don’t like what i said
They got plenty of answers and in return get insults from you. So people don’t bother anymore, you are just one of the hundreds of tankies on this site that will completely deny truth and try to twist the narrative.
So nothing on the fact our dear eurooean leaders and the nato are as corrupted as big bad putin. Pos
Shut the fuck up retard your country is paying for tanks in gaza right now and you care about what the ussr did in idk what eastern europe shithole 40 years ago?
You’re the tankie you fkn idiot
To sell weapons.
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Il a un probleme le boche?
I would love to hear your take on how NATO “coup’ee”'d Russia and installed Yeltsin. Don’t forget to include your sources 🤣
https://russiaglobal.omeka.fas.harvard.edu/items/show/9#%3A~%3Atext=President+Boris+Yeltsin's+visited+the+White+House%2Creduction+terms%2C+as+well+as+economic+issues.
https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/292841468095055404/pdf/766160JRN0WBRO00Box374385B00PUBLIC0.pdf
But there’s no point in answering a Lockheed Martin simp. You’re not better than a russian, just two différent brands of jingoists
That’s after the Soviet Union fell though…
Neither of those sources mention NATO
Does it mention your mantwat?
Oddly, there is exactly as much evidence to support the existence of that.
https://www.dw.com/en/nato-corruption-drones-defense-arms-procurement-ukraine-eu/a-72562793
There’s your nato.
You dumb idiot
“Everything I don’t understand is a jingloist”
“Everybody who disagree with me on public policy is a russian bot”.
You’re American you fkn idiot why don’t you take care of your own country policies