When it comes to Canada’s often tense debate around gun laws, most Canadians likely will not have heard of an RCMP database called the Firearms Reference Table, or FRT.

The FRT is a database used by the RCMP to help classify firearms. That classification determines whether a gun is non-restricted, restricted or prohibited.

Technically, the FRT isn’t a legal instrument, but instead just an internal RCMP tool based on definitions set out in the Criminal Code and Firearms Act. But in practice?

“It’s both the law and not the law,” said A.J. Somerset, the author of Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun.

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    13 days ago

    I just love that picture of the gun-control advocates that typifies the “scary black rifle” bullshit that they use all the time.

    Legal firearms and licensed firearm owners are not the problem in Canada and never have been; smuggling weapons out of the US to known criminals is where the issue lies, and where the violence comes from. But hunters, collectors and competitors get to pay the price for these groups to keep the gravy train going that keeps them employed. If they ever managed to get all firearms banned, they’d have a very bad day.

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      Legal firearms and licensed firearm owners are not the problem in Canada and never have been; smuggling weapons out of the US to known criminals is where the issue lies, and where the violence comes from.

      What causes you to believe that Legal Firearms are never used by a Licensed firearm owner in a problematic way?

      Do you believe that 100% of illegal firearms in Canada are smuggled?

      But hunters, collectors and competitors get to pay the price for these groups to keep the gravy train going that keeps them employed.

      Have you considered that we do not need firearms for hunting, do not need to collect very dangerous weapons, and that firearm competitions are incredibly wasteful because of the resources needed to create firearms, bullets, targets, and the like?

      If they ever managed to get all firearms banned, they’d have a very bad day.

      What do you mean by this?

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        Never said “never”. 13% of handgun homicides and 12% of rifle/shotgun homicides were by licensed individuals for known incidents.

        from https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2024001/article/00001-eng.htm

        Maybe I mispoke about the source, but a large amount are American and a much larger amount are “unknown”. Where would you figure these come through, given who our neighbor is and their level of firearms traceability?

        What do you mean by this?

        Did you take it as a threat? I obviously meant they’d have to go find a job instead.

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          I responded to your last comment, and if you wish to continue the conversation I expect you to respond to my questions and the points in good faith without deleting and editing your posts.

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          Never said “never” but it’s certainly not a very large amount compared to illegal weapons.

          Legal firearms and licensed firearm owners are not the problem in Canada and never have been; smuggling weapons out of the US to known criminals is where the issue lies, and where the violence comes from.

          I would recommend a rephrase of your argument then, because you clearly said legal weapons and owners are not the problem and never have been.

          My suggestion:

          “Legal firearms and licensed firearm owners make up a small percentage of violent crimes using firearms in Canada; Smuggling illegal weapons into Canada makes up a larger percentage of violent crimes using firearms, and the priority should be increased border enforcement.”

          I’ve bowhunted, it’s a pain in the ass for providing food and frankly, I’m not in it for the thrill of the chase. I’m feeding myself and my family.

          There are ways to feed your family without hunting. I don’t find “I am not good at bow hunting” to be a solid argument in support of firearms being necessary. This is because hunting isn’t necessary.

          And if they got them banned, they’d have to actually find a productive job.

          Who is they?

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            "“Legal firearms and licensed firearm owners make up a small percentage of violent crimes using firearms in Canada; Smuggling illegal weapons into Canada makes up a larger percentage of violent crimes using firearms, and the priority should be increased border enforcement.”

            13%, i.e. 3 out of every 25 guns is not a small percentage.

            A small percentage that is not worth talking about is less than 5% to fractional percentages. 13% is rather significant.

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      13% of gun crimes in Toronto come from domestic guns that were purchased legally at one point in Canada.

      So yes, you are in fact part of the fucking problem. Learn how to take some personal responsibility for your actions instead of crying victim.