Mostly porn as a kid, then actual research on my own. Sucks that sex ed is so ignored
Being extremely queer in an extremely conservative family, *INHALES*
It was pure abstinence only. Our teachers were only allowed to tell us not to have sex, and that was pretty much it. Never even saw a diagram of a vagina or a penis.
Technical, but no mention of the social, psychological, or emotional aspects of sexuality.
Female orgasm was literally never discussed or even spoken of. This was in the very conservative city of Anaheim, in very conservative Orange County, California.
Texas: We had it three times. All three times were ineffectual or outright wrong.
First was in 3rd grade (9 years old) where the boys and girls were split into different classrooms. This was mostly the “your body is going to change, your penis will sometimes get hard, you’ll get hair in new places, please for the love of god wear antiperspirant” talk. They didn’t really touch on the opposite sex at all in this one, except to vaguely say that the girls would also experience some changes of their own.
Second was in middle school, probably 7th grade (13 years old). They marched us all into the gymatorium and had us sit on the floor in front of the stage. They brought in a dude who looked and acted a lot like a church youth leader. Very much the “hey kids, I’m the cool relatable teacher” type. This was an abstinence-only sex talk. We were told that condoms don’t prevent pregnancy or STIs, (“on the microscopic level, latex looks like Swiss cheese”), and can actually increase the risk of STIs in some cases by “sealing everything in”. We were told that women’s birth control is ineffective and probably shouldn’t even be legal to sell because of the horrible side effects. We were shown lots of gory and graphic images of sex organs in various states of disease or decay. This was basically the start of the “if you have sex you’re going to catch a ton of diseases and then die” messaging. We were told that the only safe way to have sex is to wait until after marriage.
Then in high school, we had Health as a required elective. It could be taken anywhere from 9th to 12th grade (15-18 years old). The class was mostly focused on things like nutrition (using the very outdated food pyramid) and exercise (without any actual practical portions where we went to the gym). Sex ed in this class consisted of a single class session (~55 minutes) of more “if you have sex it’ll rot, and then you’ll die” messaging.
Naturally, kids had a lot of unprotected sex, because teenagers are horny. They tried sex, realized they didn’t seem to get sick, and then kept having it. And they didn’t use protection, because they were told that condoms were ineffective. IIRC we had around a dozen girls get pregnant in high school. Also, all three sex talks were entirely heteronormative, with zero mention of LGBTQ+ stuff.
Edit: My partner went to school in a neighboring town. They didn’t get the middle school talk, and Health was an optional elective for their high school. So the only one they actually got was the first talk in elementary school.
I’m deeply sorry but Texas moment
Seriously, to me this sounds like politically and religiously motivated child abuse. All of it. Lives were destroyed by this behavior, people should be jailed for this.
Texan here as well.
Yes, the sex education that was provided was horrible, probably still is.
Thankfully, between the internet and other sources of factual information, most of us figured it out. Most.
That being said, there were quite a few girls who left our campus for a long duration, and some for a shorter duration.
Well, I was in a networking class and me and my friends were poking around the network.
Now, what we did was in no way shape or form hacking.
We navigated to the nurse’s computer, labeled for convenience, and started poking around. Open access to it. HIPPA information, etc.
Anyways, the girls who left for a long time got knocked up, had a baby etc.
The short timers were usually a combination of suspension and some STD.
We missed the next period reporting the security concern to administration.
We did not mention we were responsible for the network outage the previous month; but if a batch file placed in the autostart of a few computers can bring the school down, they deserved it. We just wanted to cause some chaos and blow off a day where we all had classes in computer labs.
Switzerland:
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We had it first when I was in 6th grade in biology. This was mostly here are your reproductive organs and here is what happens when you reproduce.
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Second time was in 8th grade, here we had once again everything we had in primary school + a little more in-deph + including a little bit genetics & sexuall illnesses.
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That year we also had a talk about consent, birth controll and struggles of teen pregnancy in houskeeping class.
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Later that year we had STD prevention week, where they explained every known STD and their symptoms including images of the sympthoms+ showed interviews with people afected and the history of the STDs and how they are treated ect. (That was scary AF, but hey we got free condoms)
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Later I moved to the Gymnasium and we had it once again but mostly focusing on genetics.
Edit: this is where I lived in Switzerland and not for the whole country as in Switzetland every Kanton has their own school ecosystem)
We pretty much had the same except for the STD week.
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We had some diagrams about the sex organs. And an overview of birth control (IUD, condom, etc.). I had it twice. Once in Middle School, and it was a generic overview at best (mostly “for the love of God, don’t”) and then a more detailed one in high school. I believe they also showed us a woman giving birth.
IED
Uhh?
Lmao, I meant “IUD.”
My parents had bought a book on the subject to read to us kids. I got a hold of it first and read it by myself. When my dad brought me to bed, I “educated” him about where kids come from. It’s still one of my parents’ favorite stories about me as a kid.
In school, sex ed was alright. They taught us everything we need to know incl. how to prevent STDs and pregnancies. The only thing I would criticize in hindsight is that they used giant test tubes (25cm) to teach us how to put on condoms. That made a lot of boys feel inadequate.
In the UK in the 1970s we were shown cross sections of male and family reproductive organs and copied pages out of a textbook about the essential mechanics. I can’t remember any discussion or moral guidance in the slightest. But then at that point I was well into my ‘hedge porn’ stage so that’s how I really educated myself.
Hedge porn? What is that?
Porn you found in hedges. It was a big part of growing up in England back then, trust me.
Can confirm, hedge porn was a thing in Scotland too.
As for sex education, our chemistry teacher once showed us how to put a condom on a banana. That was about it.
I remember in elementary school we had a lesson on sex organs. When I turned in my test paper, I curiously asked my teacher, “If the sperm is in the male, and the egg is in the female, how does the sperm transfer over?”
All she said was, “Well, what do you think?” To which I replied, “I don’t know.” Then I quietly returned to my desk. Later I discussed it with my friend and we concluded that a male must pee into a female. Because at the time, pee was the only thing we knew came out of the penis.
The school took us on a field trip to the hospital where they told us that if we have sex we will get aids and die.
A nurse told us a horror story of a teenage mother who died and they showed us some fetuses in jars.
This was in central FL in the 90s
North Florida.
We had some short, no nonsense discussion of what sex was, the fact that stis were a thing, and that was about it. And then some health class in my high school made extremely graphic displays of what your genitals would look like if you got stis (and they weren’t treated for years) that were left up all year for some reason
I was raised partially in a Unitarian Universalist church which believes in comprehensive sex education. I was still a dumbass about it but they definitely tried to inform me and I think I have a healthier sex life than most people have had.
I had an surprising one, actually: I went to a private religious school, but I had a strangely comprehensive sex education.
It started with unvarnished discussions of human anatomy and cautions about sexual abuse around age 8, and then moved on to the basics of (hetero)sexuality by the time I was a preteen. In high school that continued, though talk about birth control was postponed until the health units of later physical education courses, which not everyone took. Of course, the stress was always that sexual activity should be limited to monogamous (heterosexual) marriage, and there was no mention of anything outside of the hetero-normative.
The last wrinkle was that it was all opt-out. At every point, there was at least one person who would leave the room for the duration of the class because their parents really didn’t want them learning about naughty bits.
So it ended up actually providing a pretty good foundation. It was still incomplete and biased, but a lot better than what you would expect when you hear “private religious school.”
Christian teachers showing us pictures of STI infections that had been left alone for probably years before the patient went to/was able to go to a doctor in an effort to scare us into celibacy. Generally a scarring experience that didn’t really teach us anything other than to practice safe sex.
*This was in the early 2000s IIRC.
Reading through the comments I remembered about a really great sex-positive TV show I would always watch late at night at around the same time my public education failed in teaching me about sex. The hosts were a really attractive Asian-looking guy with flowy hair and always wore a silk shirt with the top 2-3 buttons undone and a really attractive white girl that always wore a lot of tight clothes. They went over a lot of topics regarding attraction, safe-sex, how to deal with STIs; however, I don’t think there were any specific segments on anything LGBTQ+, but IIRC they didn’t need to because they way they presented things were easily applied to any sexual orientation. As in they talked about anal sex and how to do it safely and whatnot without specifically saying gex. I would love to read more about it, so if you know what it was called please lmk.
This plus being forced to watch a video of a woman giving birth for us. Also that birth control methods in general, including condoms, aren’t very reliable. Well, guess what happens when you tell teenagers a condom might not even make a difference in preventing pregnancy…
Absolutely nothing about consent either, so the nastiest shit was said about a teenager who got pregnant from statutory rape (7+ year age difference). LGBT? Absolutely nothing. I think someone might have said something in one of my classes asking if we were going to cover it, and the (gym coach) teacher making loud disgusted noises while laughing and saying no.
Christ, the 90s and 00s were not great in a lot of ways.
Yeah, I had the same thing with the photos of diseased bodies and the disparaging of contraception. I remember in particular that the textbook chapter on abstinence was immediately followed by the chapter on parenthood, which felt like it left a pretty conspicuous gap.
Amusingly there were two very different Health Class experiences to be had at my school. You were assigned one at random, you couldn’t choose which teacher you got. One was a first-year math teacher and member of an unsuccessful local Christian rock band. He’s who I had. The other possibility was a lesbian gym teacher, whose class was apparently (and unsurprisingly) a LOT more useful.
But yeah, the 90’s kinda sucked, and I hate that the US is trundling back towards that kind of “education.”
All of what you just said made me remember it more clearly, and all of what you just said is pretty much exactly my experience as well. Goddamn christians.
9th grade. Public school. Teacher opens the first class with “All penises are the same size” and “I don’t answer questions. That’s what your handouts are for”. I can’t for the life of me understand how my generation had such a high teenage pregnancy rate, can you?