This is a fair assessment. I am surprised. I’ve been seeing a lot of denial of Pakistan’s association with terrorism around this site.

Traditionally, resistance movements in Kashmir did not target tourists. This was because it had an implicit agreement with the business class and local Kashmiris whose bread and butter was tourism. So harming tourists would make you look like an extremist who doesn’t care about the locals. Additionally, the terrorist attack was condemned by Kashmiris coming out in the streets to protest for the first time in history. TRF doesn’t have widespread support among Kashmiris because of this attack and a previous killing in Reasi, of tourists as well. In both attacks, Kashmiri people lost lives as well. A famous militant, Burhan Wani had a lot of popularity in Kashmir-300,000 people attended his funeral. But he and his gang were caught, and while they had received arms from across the border, they didn’t have the sophisticated technology that these terrorists did. This particular operation was highly sophisticated and efficient, more in the pattern of trained terrorists from the attacks above listed than indigenous rebels we’ve seen in Kashmir. So it is quite likely it was a Pakistan funded proxy. LeT is called the most reliable and efficient proxy Pakistan uses against India, though they have conducted attacks in Bosnia and Herzegovina as well.

I can suggest a few books on Kashmir Christopher Snedden - Independant Kashmir (sympathetic to the cause, but arguably that’s the moral position to take. Either way, it’s fairly objective.) And a few on terrorism and LeT, if you’d like In their own words: Understanding Lashkar-e-Tayyaba - C. Christine Fair Storming the World Stage - the Story of Lashkar-e-Taiba - Frankel Stephen The one above goes into depth about the Pakistani government’s complicity in the activities of the group. Some of the sites detailed in this book were struck by the Indian government in the missile strike.

Why did Pakistan attack gurudwaras in Poonch, again? Why are they targeting Indian cities?

*Azhar. Yes, it’s a terrorist organisation. It is a UN designated terrorist organisation. If you’re calling ‘religious education’ given to men like Ajmal Kasab (he mentioned it in his confession) then I have nothing to say to you. The Indian army doesn’t tell people to kill Hindus, it employs both Hindus and Muslims. Indian schools don’t tell us to kill Muslims, this is some delusional shite.

Why would an ordinary masjid host a well known, widely despised figure like Saeed? As far as I am aware, ordinary Pakistanis condemn Saeed for the Mumbai attacks.

In 1984, Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi, currently on trial in Pakistan for his role in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, formed a small group of Ahl-e-Hadith Muslims from Pakistan to wage jihad against Soviets forces in Afghanistan. The Ahl-e-Hadith are Salafist in orientation, meaning they believe Muslims must return to a pure form of Islam and advocate emulating the Prophet Muhammad and his companions in all areas of life. A year later, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed and Zafar Iqbal, two teachers at the University of Engineering and Technology (Lahore) Pakistan, formed the Jamaat-ul-Dawa (Organization for Preaching, or JuD). This was a small missionary group primarily dedicated to preaching the tenets of Ahl-e-Hadith Islam. In 1986, Lakhvi merged his outfit with JuD to form LeT’s parent organization, the Markaz al-Dawa-wal-Irshad(Center for Preaching and Guidance, or MDI). The group had 17 original founders, Abdullah Azzam being the most famous of them. Azzam was Osama bin Laden’s first mentor and the man most responsible for the influx of foreign fighters into Afghanistan during the 1980s.

From this paper https://web.archive.org/web/20110507114538/http://newamerica.net/sites/newamerica.net/files/policydocs/Tankel_LeT_0.pdf. JuD is a known front of Lashkar. The camp was for the purpose of Daura-e-Sufa, Daura-e-Aam and Khas are done elsewhere.

Why not?

If it was civilian infrastructure, why was the man leading the funeral a famous terrorist, and not a local religious cleric? And see, here’s the thing. If you join LeT, you are a terrorist. Doesn’t matter if you just go there to sweep the floors. And no, ordinary Muslims don’t go to mosques associated with global terror organisations. LeT is officially a banned organisation in Pakistan, and has a huge stigma among Pakistanis because of its involvement in the the 2000s, like the Mumbai attacks, Parliament attacks and Red Fort attacks. Why would Pakistanis go there when they have condemned the attacks and called them unislamic? If ISIS opened a mosque near you, and you knew it was frequented by famous ISIS members, would you go there every Friday? It’s not just a mosque, it is an LeT mosque that spreads LeT propaganda.

Frankly, you’re just dismissing everything as coincidences. The original comment was in response to the article claiming that the mosque was an ordinary religious structure. I have successfully disproved that. I don’t work for the Indian intelligence agency. I’m sure they have far better proofs. Either way, I condemn this reactionary war. Neither side values the life of civilians and both sides are shit, not because what India targeted weren’t terrorist sites. Killing terrorists and destroying terror facilities doesn’t end terrorism, just postpone it on the short term. Actually cracking down on terror, preventing radicalisation, helping Kashmir, and acting against the bourgeois sponsors of global terror does. For this, Pakistan has to comply as well, and it isn’t likely to being a deeply reactionary bourgeois dictatorship. The end of LeT can only be accomplished by Pakistanis overthrowing its military government to establish a people’s republic and our own proletarians to do the same. But that is a far off fantasy, looking at the state of both the Pakistani and Indian people swayed by the PTI on one side and the various bourgeois nationalist governments on the other.

Considering the fact that Khawaja Asif said that he gets all his information from social media in an interview, I am going to wait it out, to be honest. They’ve been flooding social media with old videos. The truth is the first casualty in war.

The broader points were Pakistan’s habit of denial, which has continued till 2022. If they shielded Mir till 2022, why do you expect me to believe they aren’t shielding the Muridke camp either? I agree, India should provide evidence to the international community. But Pakistan shouldn’t be taken at its word.

Not only that, Azhar gave a speech there after being reported missing for two years on, again, Nov. 30 2024, in Muridke. Three LeT members as of yesterday, 2025 were reported dead by Pakistan itself, and the Army attended their funerals and wrapped them in Pakistan flags and did their janaza in that very campus. This confirms the camp was active as of 2024 and terrorists were present when India struck that camp. Otherwise, why would those three LeT members die, if it was only civilian infrastructure? Why would Rauf lead the funeral at that camp, record it and upload it, if that very location did not have any terrorists? Why would Azhar feel secured enough to be right there and give a speech and record it, making it available to any journalist with an internet connection, in full view of his location? This is not ‘vibes’ based targeting. It’s cold, hard proof of the presence of known LeT members. That particular camp.

Yeah, you’re right mate, but he’s talking specifically about the Muridke one. This one too, was evidently a terror base as confirmed by Azhar himself. Though it’s actually quite famous among journalists. Afaik, the one at Sawai Nala, Muzaffarabad was also involved in the 26/11 attack, from what I’ve read. Crazy how these people deny years of evidence collected by their own countries. Like, I’m just a normal person, not the intelligence agency and even I could recognise several camps based on reading foreign academic research on LeT and Pakistan. It’s kind of funny how well known they are, how often these names pop up in books and papers, including actual written propaganda, leaflets and magazines. It’s not some secret that only RAW knows about.

Wow. So you ignored the whole

1. Shielding of Sajad Mir till 2022, despite official Pakistani government claims that he was dead.
2. Historical denial of 2008 attacks for several years, despite Pakistani claims that they weren’t involved
3. Lakhvi’s release in 2015, despite claims that 2008 terrorists were dealt with
4. Pakistani army officials attending the funeral of known terrorists in the presence of UN designated terrorist, Hafiz Abdul Rauf, in 2025, despite claims that they don’t support terrorism
5. Pakistan’s historical ‘good terrorist, bad terrorist’ double game, and evidence for its continuation today, despite claims that it doesn’t

Well, here’s the thing. Masood Azhar, who had disappeared from intelligence agencies for nearly two years due to international pressure, resurfaced in the same Muridke camp on 30 November 2024 and gave a speech. Forgive me if I, or even academics like the ones above are sceptical of Pakistan’s claims of taking over that mosque. Also, work on your reading comprehension. There were several points you straight up ignored.

Not only Hindus. Their treatment of Ahmadis is deplorable. They can’t vote (unless they declare themself to be non Muslim). They can’t pray in public, quote the Quran or pray in regular mosques. They aren’t considered Muslim. The constitution itself discriminates against them.

Actually, the attacks targeted multiple terrorist camps. The Markaz Toiba, Muridke camp alone is responsible for 176 deaths, including 26 foreign nationals from 2008. But I agree, war is stupid.

Pakistan has also launched a disinformation campaign. Indian tv has too, though I’m not aware of any such case leaking into non-BJP aligned outlets. Except for one newspaper, which fell prey to Pakistani disinformation and then deleted the post after being proven false.

https://www.altnews.in/april-video-of-pakistani-aircraft-crash-shared-with-false-claims-that-pak-took-down-indian-rafale-jet/ https://www.altnews.in/pakistani-media-misreport-used-old-images-of-2-iaf-fighter-jets-as-counter-strike/ https://www.thenewsminute.com/amp/story/news/amidst-operation-sindoor-news-alt-news-zubair-works-over-time-to-fact-check-claims www.outlookindia.com/amp/story/national/fact-check-viral-claim-of-indian-strike-on-karachi-port-uses-2020-gaza-images www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93g3jk39dk https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/operation-sindoor-fake-news-india-pakistan-strikes-b2747183.html

Pakistan has also targeted multiple Indian cities, but has been intercepted. It directly targeted the Golden Temple last night in Amritsar.

To set some context, an earlier comment of mine: Markaz Taiba, Muridke was NOT a mosque. It is a very well known terror hideout, even among international journalists. It was used to train Ajmal Kasab and David Headley for the 2008 attacks, which he confessed to in 2008. Osama Bin Laden himself paid for its construction. It was founded in 1988 and Lakhvi himself frequented it.

“In this book I argue that Lashkar’s evolution is informed by two defining dualities: the first is its identity as a militant outfit and as a missionary organization committed to promoting its interpretation of Ahl-e-Hadith Islam”

“In 1984, Lakhvi broke away and formed a small Ahl-e-Hadith group of his own. A year later, Hafiz Mohammad Saeed and Zafar Iqbal, two teachers at the University of Engineering and Technology (Lahore) Pakistan, formed Jamaat-ul-Dawa [Organization for Preaching, or JuD]. This was a small missionary order primarily dedicated to preaching the tenets of Ahl-e-Hadith Islam as interpreted by its founders. Soon after, the two joined forces.”

(Source-Storming the World: the Story of Lashkar-e-Taiba, Tankel Stephen) Ajmal Kasab was one of the perpetrators of the 2008 Mumbai attack. JuD is banned now.

“Born in 1987 in Faridkot, Pakistan, Kasab dropped out of school thirteen years later to work as a laborer in his hometown. Within a year he left for Lahore, where he again worked as laborer for nearly five years. After quarreling with his father, Kasab struck out on his own. He landed a job in Jhelum city, north of Lahore. Unhappy with his meager income, Kasab quit in November 2007 and moved to Rawalpindi with a colleague named Muzaffar. A month later Kasab came upon Lashkar members collecting animal hides in the name of Jamaat-ul-Dawa during Eid al-Adha. He and Muzaffar obtained Lashkar’s office address and showed up declaring their desire to wage violent jihad. After giving their names, addresses and other details they were told to return the following morning with extra clothes, whereupon the two received 200 rupees for the bus trip to ‘a place called Marqas Taiyyaaba, Muridke’ where ‘LeT is having their training camp.’ Upon arrival there the two were promptly enrolled in Lashkar’s Daura-e-Suffa training.”

(Same source. The book was published in 2011. Daura-e-Suffa refers to religious training, according to the LeT’s interpretation of the Hadiths and the Quran.)

The article you linked mentioned the seminary and classes. This is what it is.

“Life after the ban was not as easy for any of Pakistan’s jihadi groups as it had been beforehand. Fundraising, recruitment and training were restricted to different degrees for different outfits, but none got off scot-free if only because these activities could no longer be carried out as overtly as hitherto. However, the Musharraf regime had no plans to dismantle all of Pakistan’s proxies. As part of what has become known as Pakistan’s ‘double game,’ militant outfits were categorized as ‘good jihadis’ that were covertly supported for continued use as proxies and ‘bad jihadis’ that were cracked down on more harshly. This was not a purely binomial division. Assessments and treatment existed on a spectrum, meaning some ‘good jihadis’ were treated better than others and some ‘bad jihadis’ cracked down on more harshly. Categorization was based on the threats that a group posed to the state and the utility it continued to offer.”

ibid. Now look up ‘good Taliban’ and ‘bad Taliban’. The Pakistani establishment still follows the same protocol for terrorists today; kill the ones that are harmful to its interests, or if pressured enough, US interests and let the ones that act as a useful proxy against India to operate freely. Look up Sajad Mir, and how Pakistan denied he existed for many years, then said he died long ago, until he was suddenly declared alive in 2022 and convicted. A French anti-terrorism expert, Jean-Louis Bruguière, in his Some Things that I Wasn’t Able to Say has stated that the Pakistani army trained the militants in the LeT camps based on his interrogation of Sajad Mir’s French companion, Willy Brigiditte.

“Lashkar was the most reliable in Islamabad’s eyes and fared the best. To begin with, it benefited from stronger connections to Pakistan’s army, ISI and civil service than other groups. Several journalists pointed out that, in addition to having recruited retired army and ISI officers into its ranks, Lashkar members had family in the middle ranks of the army and various civilian security agencies. Thus, the group was better connected than any other militant out-fit.4 It also had no strong allegiance to the Taliban and therefore was viewed as less of a threat to the state. According to one former senior official in the Intelligence Bureau, the government ordered Lashkar not to side with the Taliban in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.When it complied, this reinforced the perception that it was an obedient and reliable proxy. Finally, Lashkar’s leadership shared Musharraf’s India-centric priorities and the group remained Pakistan’s most potent proxy. One Western diplomat stationed in Pakistan went so far as to suggest the Musharraf regime would have sacrificed the other outfits if necessary in order to protect Lashkar because of its utility against India.”

ibid.

To quote my other comment on c/India:

During the brutal Mumbai attacks, Pakistan denied all charges of complicity. India did everything ‘right’ - it gave a fair trial to Kasab, shared evidence with the international community and urged Pakistan to crack down on terror camps in their country. But what did Pakistan do? It denied that Kasab was a Pakistani national, denied that they had any such camps, banned journalists from going to Kasab’s village. It took years of investigation and coordination with the intelligence agencies of other countries to prove that ISI officials (which worked with the CIA during the Soviet-Afghan War) were complicit. David Headley (thanks America, you never fail to disappoint when creating terrorists) and Tahawuur Rana, masterminds of the attacks, provided the necessary clues.

Pre-26/11 India and Pakistan had the warmest relations they’d had in years. Pakistan’s denial, and subsequent investigation, other terrorist attacks after this (there were many) by the same organisations changed everything.

Sajad Mir, a man claimed by the Pakistani government to be a fantasy cooked up by India, was found to be a real person, one of the planners of the Mumbai attacks. The efforts of international journalists (https://www.propublica.org/article/the-man-behind-mumbai) proved his role. In fact, he had even planned a terrorist attack in Australia, and his fellow conspirator, a French terrorist whose name I don’t recall right now revealed that he was well known in the Pakistani Army and freely went into Pakistani Army bases which civilians typically aren’t allowed to go into, let alone know their location or members. This was when he and his buddy were training Lashker-e-Taiba. Is it so surprising that this genocidal army wouldn’t do anything about known terrorists, then?

Pakistan’s army committed a genocide in living memory - the genocide of Bangladeshis. This is the state you’re defending, and the groups that have spawned from it, which provides cover to the worst scum if it serves their purposes.

Anyway, onto Mir. Mir was declared dead after it was found that he wasn’t so imaginary after all. Pakistan shifted the goalposts - he died long ago, we don’t have to hand him over to India. Then, magically in 2022, he was brought back from the dead and convicted. A French magistrate said that he was a member of the Pakistani Army. He was the son of an officer, after all. Why did Pakistan lie and protect such men? Why did Pakistan’s ISI destroy key evidence in the trial? Why did the state withhold evidence if it has nothing to do with terrorists?

Why are Lakhvi and Hafiz Saeed still chilling in Pakistan? They both have an Interpol red notice. Why is he roaming freely in the country and giving inflammatory speeches? Saeed said his party would be contesting elections in 2018. This is an anti-terrorist state? Yesterday, Masood Azhar said that his mosque and seminary were hit by the missile – why does he have a seminary and mosque to radicalise poor young men of Pakistan? Why does Pakistan take absolutely no action on terrorists except when said terrorists harm the army’s interests?

To claim that the Pakistani state/army (the state has no real power; no PM has served their full term in Pakistan) and the terror apparatus are somehow separate entities flies in the face of evidence.

This same government released Lakhvi in 2015 on bail, who was one of the founders of LeT. 7 years after the attacks. He was released, and is apparently given 3 five-year sentences. Why such leniency, and such convenient disappearance and reappearence?

Look up C. Christine Fair, and read her work about LeT. It wasn’t religiously motivated, it was against known terror bases. There is a list. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/operation-sindoor-full-list-of-terrorist-camps-in-pakistan-pojk-targeted-by-indian-strikes/article69547986.ece with details about who was trained there, which attacks were carried out from there and when. You are literally years behind on the information–2008 and subsequent investigations have revealed quite a lot about LeT’s activities there.

While the Pakistan army continues shelling across Jammu, targeting schools, houses and civilian infrastructure, killing more civilians than armymen, and as of now has targeted cities as well, but was thankfully foiled. One must condemn the war crimes of the Pakistani side as well, to be taken seriously by anyone in India who knows the situation on the ground.

They not only held Bin Laden in 2011, but brought back Sajad Mir from the dead in 2022. He was one of the key conspirators of the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Look up how Pakistan first denied he existed, then denied he was alive, and then finally brought him back from the dead after 14 years.

Markaz Taiba, Muridke was NOT a mosque. It is a very well known terror hideout, even among international journalists. It was used to train Ajmal Kasab and David Headley for the 2008 attacks, which he confessed to in 2008. Osama Bin Laden himself paid for its construction. It was founded in 1988 and Lakhvi himself frequented it. How utterly ignorant you people are. Do some more research. Most Indians remember Kasab’s confession.

In this book I argue that Lashkar’s evolution is informed by two defining dualities: the first is its identity as a militant outfit and as a missionary organization committed to promoting its interpretation of Ahl-e-Hadith Islam

In 1984, Lakhvi broke away and formed a small Ahl-e-Hadith group of his own. A year later, Hafiz Mohammad Saeed and Zafar Iqbal, two teachers at the University of Engineering and Technology (Lahore) Pakistan, formed Jamaat-ul-Dawa [Organization for Preaching, or JuD]. This was a small missionary order primarily dedicated to preaching the tenets of Ahl-e-Hadith Islam as interpreted by its founders. Soon after, the two joined forces.

(Source-Storming the World: the Story of Lashkar-e-Taiba, Tankel Stephen)

Born in 1987 in Faridkot, Pakistan, Kasab dropped out of school thirteen years later to work as a laborer in his hometown. Within a year he left for Lahore, where he again worked as laborer for nearly five years. After quarreling with his father, Kasab struck out on his own. He landed a job in Jhelum city, north of Lahore. Unhappy with his meager income, Kasab quit in November 2007 and moved to Rawalpindi with a colleague named Muzaffar. A month later Kasab came upon Lashkar members collecting animal hides in the name of Jamaat-ul-Dawa during Eid al-Adha. He and Muzaffar obtained Lashkar’s office address and showed up declaring their desire to wage violent jihad. After giving their names, addresses and other details they were told to return the following morning with extra clothes, whereupon the two received 200 rupees for the bus trip to ‘a place called Marqas Taiyyaaba, Muridke’ where ‘LeT is having their training camp.’ Upon arrival there the two were promptly enrolled in Lashkar’s Daura-e-Suffa training.

(Same source. The book was published in 2011. Daura-e-Suffa refers to religious training, according to the LeT’s interpretation of the Hadiths and the Quran.)

The article you linked mentioned the seminary and classes. This is what it is.

Life after the ban was not as easy for any of Pakistan’s jihadi groups as it had been beforehand. Fundraising, recruitment and training were restricted to different degrees for different outfits, but none got off scot-free if only because these activities could no longer be carried out as overtly as hitherto. However, the Musharraf regime had no plans to dismantle all of Pakistan’s proxies. As part of what has become known as Pakistan’s ‘double game,’ militant outfits were categorized as ‘good jihadis’ that were covertly supported for continued use as proxies and ‘bad jihadis’ that were cracked down on more harshly. This was not a purely binomial division. Assessments and treatment existed on a spectrum, meaning some ‘good jihadis’ were treated better than others and some ‘bad jihadis’ cracked down on more harshly. Categorization was based on the threats that a group posed to the state and the utility it continued to offer.

ibid. Now look up ‘good Taliban’ and ‘bad Taliban’. The Pakistani establishment still follows the same protocol for terrorists today; kill the ones that are harmful to its interests, or if pressured enough, US interests and let the ones that act as a useful proxy against India to operate freely. Look up Sajad Mir, and how Pakistan denied he existed for many years, then said he died long ago, until he was suddenly declared alive in 2022 and convicted. A French anti-terrorism expert, Jean-Louis Bruguière, in his Some Things that I Wasn’t Able to Say has stated that the Pakistani army trained the militants in the LeT camps based on his interrogation of Sajad Mir’s French companion, Willy Brigiditte.

Lashkar was the most reliable in Islamabad’s eyes and fared the best. To begin with, it benefited from stronger connections to Pakistan’s army, ISI and civil service than other groups. Several journalists pointed out that, in addition to having recruited retired army and ISI officers into its ranks, Lashkar members had family in the middle ranks of the army and various civilian security agencies. Thus, the group was better connected than any other militant out-fit.4 It also had no strong allegiance to the Taliban and therefore was viewed as less of a threat to the state. According to one former senior official in the Intelligence Bureau, the government ordered Lashkar not to side with the Taliban in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.When it complied, this reinforced the perception that it was an obedient and reliable proxy. Finally, Lashkar’s leadership shared Musharraf’s India-centric priorities and the group remained Pakistan’s most potent proxy. One Western diplomat stationed in Pakistan went so far as to suggest the Musharraf regime would have sacrificed the other outfits if necessary in order to protect Lashkar because of its utility against India.

ibid.

To quote my other comment on c/India:

During the brutal Mumbai attacks, Pakistan denied all charges of complicity. India did everything ‘right’ - it gave a fair trial to Kasab, shared evidence with the international community and urged Pakistan to crack down on terror camps in their country. But what did Pakistan do? It denied that Kasab was a Pakistani national, denied that they had any such camps, banned journalists from going to Kasab’s village. It took years of investigation and coordination with the intelligence agencies of other countries to prove that ISI officials (which worked with the CIA during the Soviet-Afghan War) were complicit. David Headley (thanks America, you never fail to disappoint when creating terrorists) and Tahawuur Rana, masterminds of the attacks, provided the necessary clues.

Pre-26/11 India and Pakistan had the warmest relations they’d had in years. Pakistan’s denial, and subsequent investigation, other terrorist attacks after this (there were many) by the same organisations changed everything.

Sajad Mir, a man claimed by the Pakistani government to be a fantasy cooked up by India, was found to be a real person, one of the planners of the Mumbai attacks. The efforts of international journalists (https://www.propublica.org/article/the-man-behind-mumbai) proved his role. In fact, he had even planned a terrorist attack in Australia, and his fellow conspirator, a French terrorist whose name I don’t recall right now revealed that he was well known in the Pakistani Army and freely went into Pakistani Army bases which civilians typically aren’t allowed to go into, let alone know their location or members. This was when he and his buddy were training Lashker-e-Taiba. Is it so surprising that this genocidal army wouldn’t do anything about known terrorists, then?

Pakistan’s army committed a genocide in living memory - the genocide of Bangladeshis. This is the state you’re defending, and the groups that have spawned from it, which provides cover to the worst scum if it serves their purposes.

Anyway, onto Mir. Mir was declared dead after it was found that he wasn’t so imaginary after all. Pakistan shifted the goalposts - he died long ago, we don’t have to hand him over to India. Then, magically in 2022, he was brought back from the dead and convicted. A French magistrate said that he was a member of the Pakistani Army. He was the son of an officer, after all. Why did Pakistan lie and protect such men? Why did Pakistan’s ISI destroy key evidence in the trial? Why did the state withhold evidence if it has nothing to do with terrorists?

Why are Lakhvi and Hafiz Saeed still chilling in Pakistan? They both have an Interpol red notice. Why is he roaming freely in the country and giving inflammatory speeches? Saeed said his party would be contesting elections in 2018. This is an anti-terrorist state? Yesterday, Masood Azhar said that his mosque and seminary were hit by the missile – why does he have a seminary and mosque to radicalise poor young men of Pakistan? Why does Pakistan take absolutely no action on terrorists except when said terrorists harm the army’s interests?

To claim that the Pakistani state/army (the state has no real power; no PM has served their full term in Pakistan) and the terror apparatus are somehow separate entities flies in the face of evidence.

This same government released Lakhvi in 2015 on bail, who was one of the founders of LeT. 7 years after the attacks. He was released, and is apparently given 3 five-year sentences. Why such leniency, and such convenient disappearance and reappearence?

If you had been following the research after the 2008 Mumbai attacks, you wouldn’t be saying this. Also, Pakistan directly targeted the Golden Temple, the most famous Gurudwara in India. Funny how you didn’'t mention that. Honestly, read. Look up C. Christine Fair, and read her work about LeT. It wasn’t religiously motivated, it was against known terror bases. There is a list. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/operation-sindoor-full-list-of-terrorist-camps-in-pakistan-pojk-targeted-by-indian-strikes/article69547986.ece with details about who was trained there, which attacks were carried out from there and when. You are literally years behind on the information–2008 and subsequent investigations have revealed quite a lot about LeT’s activities there.

Also, the Pakistan Army just held a funeral for a UN designed terrorist there. At the innocent ‘mosque.’ While the Pakistan army continues shelling across Jammu, targeting schools, houses and civilian infrastructure, killing more civilians than armymen.

Yes, I was wrong. I hope your family is safe.

I get what you’re trying to say, and I agree too, I am anti-war, but all the wars between India and Pakistan were actually provoked by Pakistan. The Kargil War happened when both were nuclear armed in 1999, and nothing happened then. I doubt if anything will happen now either, apart from people dying. 8 civilians from Jammu died in retaliatory cross border firing, hopefully, it de-escalates after this. There was a similar situation in 2019, and war didn’t break out.

Opinion varies, as someone from a relatively liberal family, no one in my family is taking it seriously. Such a situation broke out even in 2019, though the people killed this time by the Pakistani side have been tourists, including 1 Nepali tourist and one Kashmiri. So people are kind of angry (rightfully). But yes, most people think it’ll be border skirmishes, not full blown war.

The Kargil War of 1999 was fought between nuclear armed India and Pakistan too, and nothing much happened other than some 500+ deaths on our side and a quick victory. I sincerely doubt either side wants war. As stupid as Modi is, he isn’t going to wage war just for votes. Communal riots are more effective, and more of his thing.

One key detail is that India didn’t strike any Pakistani bases, just terrorist bases. Masood Azhar of Jaish e Mohammed confirmed that his mosque was targeted. (He expressed a disturbing amount of joy for the fact that his family was killed.)