Six months back:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/18/teamsters-favor-trump-harris-endorsement-00179879
Teamsters members heavily favor Trump over Harris ahead of union endorsement decision
Now:
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-05-03/trumps-tariffs-hit-truckers-and-port-workers
Tariffs bring shipping slowdown, threatening trucking jobs at L.A. ports
A 2023 report found that the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach contributed $21.8 billion in direct revenue to local service providers, generating $2.7 billion in state and local taxes and creating 165,462 jobs, directly and indirectly.
A decline of just 1% in cargo to the ports would wipe away 2,769 jobs and endanger as many as 4,000 others, the study found.
Last week, Port of Los Angeles Executive Director Gene Seroka said arrivals could drop by 35% over the next 14 days.
This threat looms large for members of ILWU Local 13, a union representing longshoremen who unload cargo and support port operations.
“They’re just wondering what’s going to happen,” ILWU Local 13 President Gary Herrera said of his members. “Some of the workforce will not be getting their full 40 hours a week based on the loss of cargo. Job loss is definitely a concern.”
According to Herrera and port officials, there will be more than 30 “blank sailings” in May at the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles, which occur when cargo ships cancel planned trips. That will mean 400,000 fewer containers will be shipped through the ports, officials said.
The impending downturn at the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles comes not long after the twin facilities reported booming activity, tied to a labor dispute that shut down major ports on the East and Gulf coasts. Nearly one-third of all cargo containers delivered to the U.S. travel through Los Angeles and Long Beach.
Navdeep Gill, who owns the Northern California trucking company Ocean Rail Logistics, said his business is already moving 60% to 70% less cargo as a result of the tariffs.
Gill’s truckers, who haul goods from the Port of Oakland, typically move 50 containers a week. Recently, they have been moving 10 to 15, Gill said.
“When we are not doing anything and the trucks are not working, then we lose money,” he said. His company hauls industrial goods, paper and food products.
“We have fixed expenses like insurance that we cannot bypass, so we’re losing money,” Gill said.
Over the three-day period ending Sunday, 10 container ships are expected at the Port of Los Angeles. That’s a decline from the 17 container ships that typically arrive every three days at this time of year, according to a memo from a trade group that represents shippers.
“That is going to have an effect on the work opportunities for not just us, but for truck drivers, warehouse workers and logistics teams,” said Herrera, the union president. “This is the ripple effect of not having work at the waterfront.”
Sounds like an opportunity for political education.
You know they won’t learn a damn thing from this
I know they won’t learn it on their own.
Political education is something that has to be actively done to them. Normal people don’t learn about politics by choice.
But they’ve been told to distrust anyone who could deliver that education!
To be clear, it’s not going to be talking heads on TV or annoying people on the internet that can educate them. They’ll only listen if fellow workers tell them the truth.
It’s merely an opportunity for political education, someone still has to go out among the workers and do it.
I work in a factory. I know I’m going to remind my fellow workers of the consequences.
I hope those stupid cunts starve to death.
The problem is that this is going to affect far more people than just these moronic Teamsters.
I mean, everyone is entitled to their vote, and my guess is that they’re probably going to take an economic hit, so I have a hard time dogpiling on top of that, but I don’t think that it was a move that was in their interests.
I’m on team dogpile.
The Orange Turd is bringing empty shelves to America. Great job MAGAts.
You guys are all fools. This is a good thing! The Art of the deal! This is just from Thursday:
“We’re seeing as a result that ports here in the US, the traffic has really slowed and now thousands of dockworkers and truck drivers are worried about their jobs.”
- Reporter
“That means we lose less money … when you say it slowed down, that’s a good thing, not a bad thing.”
- Trump/Master Negotiator/Art of the Deal
At least he has reduced the enormous amounts of pollution created by all those ships normally?
I don’t know, I’m just trying to find a sliver of hope somewhere.
Container ships are the most economical and least polluting way to ship goods per ton
I thought trains were the most efficient way to ship goods, though I’ll concede that trains are notoriously bad at crossing oceans.
Don’t worry, Trump’s got you covered…
So you are saying container ships do not cause massive pollution?
Especially if wind power becomes a viable alternative (again?)
https://cinea.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/new-wind-powered-cargo-ship-sets-sail-2023-08-22_en
i heard that once you fuck with the international supply chain, it takes a while to recover… like, you announce a bunch of tariffs and companies stop filling orders, factories stop, etc… suspending tariffs doesn’t make that all just start up again immediately.
but hey, our 11 year olds don’t need 30 dolls or 50 pencils?
what sucks is it’s actually really good to stop it… just, not like this…
p.s. grow a garden.
Out of curiosity, I looked it up a while back.
It’s 11,631 km from Shenzen to Los Angeles. That’s about 6280 nautical miles.
The average container ship speed is 16-25 knots. Let’s split the difference and call it 20.
6280 nm / 20 kn = 314 hoursThat’s a little over 13 days just to cross the Pacific, assuming a steady course and no issues. Add in time to load the ship in China and unload it in LA, and you can see why the most-cited estimates are three to four weeks for cross-Pacific shipping.
If no ships have left China in the past few days, that means it was a month ago (hey, anyone remember “Liberation Day” on April 2?) that ships stopped sailing. And that means it will be at least another month before any more arrive, assuming they leave today.
Trump voters have really fucked over the US.
Trump voters have really fucked over the US.
since you can do math, i encourage you to check out election truth alliance, and on reddit r/somethingiswrong2024….
there’s a fair amount of junk on there, but when people analyze the voting data, there are statistical impossibilities.
trump voters are only part of it, the election was hacked.
stuff like, drastically different voting behavior during certain parts of the day, different voting patterns in people born on odd versus even years…
most people go blank when talking about math and statistics…
Not to mention, there are all the opportunistic price gouges across all industries. Prices go up and then stay up because profits gotta grow.
They don’t need pencils for the factory jobs. I guess is what I’m told.
I wouldn’t be surprised if/when a deal is made with China, Trump removes/lowers tariffs only on shipments that dock at ports in “red states”. So ships going to California 100% tariffs but ships going to Florida only 10-15%. He’s that vindictive.
It’d have to be something silly given that it would necessitate the ships going via the Atlantic
Are they just stopping at another country and having a ship from that country import?
So far as I can tell, no.
There really is about to be a major supply chain interruption
There is some of that via India and other intermediaries, but mostly China is willing to wait it out.
This guy is a lot better than CNN for shipping.
I do love his videos. Very informative. Also this CNN story claims are over a 12hr period. Silly stats IMO.
We are so fucked
It’s hilarious though. In that “what did you expect?” Kind of way
