cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/30324456
Thousands of Israelis have joined a state-funded march through the Muslim quarter of the Old City in Jerusalem, where large groups chanted racist slogans including “Gaza is ours”, “death to the Arabs” and “may their villages burn”.
If only they had learnt a lesson from history not to be evil and cruel to others who are different.
Like a battered child, abuse sometimes begets future abuse instead of lessons learned. Victor Frankl noted a sense of entitled rage and cruelty towards the world from some of his fellow camp survivors, even after they were liberated.
Thousands of Israelis have joined a state-funded march through the Muslim quarter of the Old City in Jerusalem, where large groups chanted racist slogans including “Gaza is ours”, “death to the Arabs” and “may their villages burn”.
Fucking criminals.
State funded too. Systemic naziism.
More proof that the problem isn’t the leadership, but the attitude of the people as a whole.
This fucking sickens me.
I’m starting to see more and more people saying things as “hitler did not finish the job” and images like these only make it worse. Israel is going down in a spiral towards nazism that makes more and more people be less concerned about being antisemitic.
Zionism is not hebraism, but the effort they are putting on making everyone believe so and the effort they are putting on appearing as nazis to the rest of the world, makes it difficult to feel empathy towards them if someone ever decides to go against them once again.
Absolutely. The conditions that made the Middle East go from the most tolerant place of Jews on Earth to the most antisemitic place on Earth are being replicated worldwide, though to a lesser degree.
I’d argue that the “lesser degree” is not so lesser anymore. And it’s not that difficult to understand anymore. One year ago, you wouldn’t say “fuck israel” because you thought that the problem wasn’t israel but the nazi in charge.
Today? Today you think that maybe they put a nazi in charge because there was some wishful thinking on it from the population.
It has been really obvious to anyone paying attention that normal, moderate Israelis have wanted this and worked towards this for over fifty years, though…
I wonder if any of them would have a flicker of remorse if they could look at themselves objectively and see how they were acting
israeli zionists are looking at themselves objectively, they just don’t care. they’re literal neonazis, they think it is good what they are doing and saying.
everyone is rightfully shocked the descendants of the victims of the holocaust would go on to perpetrate their own genocide but it makes perfect sense to me. the west took these freshly minted holocaust victims and threw them carelessly into palestine as colonizers and declared the solution good enough. becoming homesteaders and colonizers was a poor substitution for therapy and healing of communities.
inb4 “yOu rEAlLy thINk a LiTtLe thERApY wOUldvE mAde anY DIfFerEnce??”
yes. yes i do, and that is a disingenuous interpretation of what i am saying anyway.
what do children raised in tumultuous environments do? they fall victim to the cycle of abuse and typically go on to perpetuate the cycle further as adults…
Your conception of the situation fails to explain the Nakba, which was committed only two years after WWII mostly by people who weren’t there for the holocaust.
not really, i never was trying to implicate the holocaust as the sole arbiter of generational trauma. [i’ll take the L on my rhetoric being too hyperbolic, i can see how i implied that in my first comment now after rereading it. it is not exactly what i meant, sorry.]
it certainly had a massive effect on jewish society generally but im not trying to say every colonizer was personally a victim of the holocaust and went on to perpetrate war crimes as a result. do you think growing up during the 40s and 50s in palestine was anything but traumatizing?
i am trying to say the situation the west created after the holocaust only served to traumatize the jewish people as a collective social conscious further than before and is largely responsible for the genocide that israel has been actively involved with basically since its conception.
I wonder if any of them would have a flicker of remorse
Did German Nazis have any?
Yikes. Incredibly disgusting to see.
The Palestinians are in the unfortunate position of living in a territory that a more powerful group of people want for themselves. A tale as old as time.