• Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    Read the title and thought she may have been dead, scared the crap out of me. Glad everyone is safe. Crazy stuff

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    3 months ago

    It says the boat was carrying her, and later says she planned to board later that day. Plus the headline. Confusing.

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        3 months ago

        No, bad journalism. This is an important, overlooked, under covered story. I don’t particularly care about Thuneberg or her location, but Israel bombing humanitarian aid ships should be much more widely reported.

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      Uh… What the fuck man? This woman was going to an active warzone to deliver aid to genocide victims. Let me repeat, she was headed to an active warzone where aid workers have routinely been targeted and murdered. If you think that’s making a career out of a viral moment then you need to fuck off.

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        3 months ago

        I have complex feelings regarding Greta.

        Sure, she’s an inspiration and she’s courageous and selfless and her heart is in the right place.

        Other people were on this boat who were also at risk, many other atrocities have occurred during this war and the one in Ukraine in which Greta wasn’t present. Her involvement in this one is not why it’s significant, and the people present at all the others were no less courageous than Greta.

        In fact, there’s a lot of other people being a lot more courageous receiving a lot less recognition.

        Additionally, in some cases the recognition Greta receives is counter-productive. I mean, putting a world famous influencer on a humanitarian mission to a place where the aggressors want as little attention as possible isn’t really a sound strategy.

        All that aside, I have two main concerns:

        One is that Greta is the hero of the leftists, but she’s unable to engage with the right - the people who really need to alter their behavior. To them she’s just an insufferable child who makes them feel guilty - that’s not how you reach people and propagate change.

        Second is that, I don’t think she’s used her influence very well. During the US campaign she was pushing the “both sides bad” narrative.

        Edit: I’m happy to wear the drive-by downvotes, but I had hoped for some more compelling rebuttals - 150 downvotes deep and the best we’ve received is that Kamala was bad.

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          3 months ago

          She’s unable to engage with the right because she’s a…

          Decent Human Being

          …We’ll see if Elon can do it, he’s a piece of shit, they should find him very relatable.

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            3 months ago

            Right? Like what is his argument? “I don’t like Greta because she doesn’t cater to everybody.”

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              3 months ago

              No, I said it up top. She’s unable to reach the people who need to change, and she’s actively undermined those who can.

              It’s great that you love her, but you don’t need to hear her message, do you.

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          I mean, putting a world famous influencer on a humanitarian mission to a place where the aggressors want as little attention as possible isn’t really a sound strategy.

          How? If anything it is sound strategy because it puts the media’s eyes on the event. It’s one thing to kill a bunch of nameless activists, but it’s another to kill Greta Thunberg, or at least I’d like to believe it is.

          One is that Greta is the hero of the leftists, but she’s unable to engage with the right - the people who really need to alter their behavior.

          They’re never gonna change their behavior, or at least not due to messaging from the left. The right will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to civilization by the sane two thirds of society. Trying to get the right on board with good things is a fool’s errand. In general, the role of leftwing activists is to either promote their own politicians or force neoliberals’ hands, not persuade the right.

          During the US campaign she was pushing the “both sides bad” narrative.

          I mean she’s right. We can argue about the tactical merits and demerits of endorsing Harris all day but the fact of the matter is that she was an absolutely terrible candidate and “What the shit? You want me to endorse that‽” is a valid position to take no matter how you personally feel about it. Greta didn’t get where she is now by compromising with neoliberals and there’s no reason to expect her to start now.

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            3 months ago

            I mean she’s right. We can argue about the tactical merits and demerits of endorsing Harris all day but the fact of the matter is that she was an absolutely terrible candidate

            Sorry, if that’s your opinion, having installed a fascist dictator who has ruined the global economy and set up concentration camps, then you don’t have any credibility.

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              3 months ago

              I don’t need any credibility to say that Kamala border wall/fracking/“most lethal army in the world”/“Nothing comes to mind” Harris was anything short of absolutely terrible.

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                3 months ago

                No that’s true, you don’t need to have any credibility to say anything you like, but when you say things that demonstrate a complete lack of reason it undermines everything else you say.