In a joint statement following talks, Xi Jinping and Putin stated that the war in Ukraine could only be resolved by removing its “root causes”.

Such formulation clearly echoes key Russian propaganda messages used by the Kremlin to justify the launch of the full-scale war, including the threat of NATO expansion, discrimination against Russian-speaking people and the suppression of the Russian language, culture and media in Ukraine.

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    The root cause is putin his nazi wagner group and russia imperial expansion of colonies.

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    I agree. The war in Ukraine can only truly be resolved by removing it’s root causes. Remove Putin, and the war ends.

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      I would go one step further and remove all of the imperialist thinking in Russia, just to be on the safe side.

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        Why don’t we split that shit up? Russia is so large and has so few people in comparison they might as well be a bunch of smaller states who can’t threaten their neighbors like that.

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          Ah yes partitioning by foreign powers has always gone so well in the past! Why don’t we try that again? I mean just look at Israel/Palestine and India/Pakistan! What great success stories 🥲

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          Denuclearise them too, but to assure them stability, promise to protect them.

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            Give Ukraine their nuclear arsenal back for breach of contract.

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          Russia is essentially a small state with a couple of centuries of imperialist thinking.

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      I want to note that the war has broad support among the Russian public, so while it might not be Ukraine they’ll attack another one of their neighbors if only Putin is removed. See: Georgia, Chechnya.

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        Worth noting that it is illegal in Russia to criticize the war, so saying you don’t support it is probably a good way to get yourself sent to the front lines in an infantry uniform. So, it’s difficult to gauge how many people actually genuinely support it or not.

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      The doctrine of the EU so far, is to consider China a multi-faced player: a partner for cooperation, an economic competitor and a systemic rival (e.g. it’s possible to cooperate with China on climate, but not on human rights).

      So far, China has also been a multi-faced player. Xi has patted Putin on the back and declared “unlimited partnership”, but no Chinese weapons have been seen in Ukraine. Chinese soldiers have been observed there, but they seem to be really few for a country of that size - either mercenaries or people obtaining first hand experience under mercenary cover. Too few to matter as soldiers.

      China has warm trade relations with Russia and has helped Russia source technology and endure sanctions. However, they haven’t made a special and dedicated effort to insulate Russia from secondary sanctions, and several Chinese companies have applied sanctions on Russia as a result.

      On other occasions, Chinese representatives have said nice words about Ukraine’s territorial integrity. But deeds haven’t followed.

      In UN votes about Ukraine, China often abstains.

      Officially, China doesn’t sell drones to Russia or Ukraine. In reality, both Ukrainian and Russian drones are full of Chinese parts. Ukrainian government is asking every bigger player to have a plan B that works without China, but few really have one. What Russian government asks of their drone makers, I don’t know.

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    Of course they would. They need a justification for when they decide to invade Taiwan.

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    Fuck China, can’t believe people are falling for their propaganda these days when they directly support Putfuck and his war machine and then have the gall to talk about honor and respect. China is still an evil dictatorship and every day we should be reminded of that.

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      I would say something but trying to think logically alone is good enough to realise why china would even have this relationship

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    Anyone here understands geopolitics and the cornering of Russia by NATO (read: the US plus European vassals) or are you just talking out of vibes? Anyone here remembers the 2011 US coup on Ukraine and what it led to? It’s a bit more complex than what the commenters here believe, lol.

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      You left out russian invasion, coups, separatists, and terrorism inside Ukraine, Donbas.

      Instead of filling your head with propaganda take a look at the map and russia borders and coasts. Measure the length of russia border. Now measure the length of Nato border with russia before Ukraine war, no way is russia cornered.

      The most peaceful borders of russia with the least number of border troops are along NATO borders.

      Russia has zero security issue since they have most nukes in the world. It is other countries that have genuine security issues with russia and its nukes.

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      So what is the standard rusbot argument for Nato expanding through willing submissions from new countries where Russias policy with their neighbors is beating them into submission where possible?

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      The only coup is coming from Russia, and yes get your facts straight

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        This has to be a joke, they couldn’t even get the year correctly and it’s been drilled into them. Right???

        edit: nvm, likely a puppet, checked the account

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          I got the year wrong BECAUSE it hasn’t been drilled into my head, lol. I just believe it’s more complex than simply “Russia bad”, especially in the face of NATO expansionism. I’m not emotionally attached though, which is why I can actually freely learn about it, unlike others who can’t conceive anything outside of “Russia bad, China bad, West good”…

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            It’s actually that simple. Why complicate things. If you bothered to look at Putin a history, you would know what he had been up to all this time.

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              Fair enough, my bad. And here I thought geopolitics were complex affairs, I should’ve just hated Eurasia and Oceania like daddy told me to.

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                The problem with people like you is that you don’t think, you repeat. You “think” you are the singular “enlightened” among a sea of propaganda-eating idiots, while saying the same shit Russia pushes to try to justify invading a sovereign country.

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                  I’m not immune to propaganda and I make mistakes like everyone else. Again, all I said is that it’s more complex than “America and Western Europe good, Russia and China bad” and people are throwing tantrums…